ambienknights Posted December 23, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 8 Content Count: 615 Reputation: 45 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/06/2013 Share Posted December 23, 2015 7 minutes ago, Paisa el Toro said: I like the idea, but I think that Shannon is biding his time for another head coaching job. Some SEC position coaches get paid more than some defensive coordinators in our conference. I'm sure if Willie can make the money right, Shannon could be swayed to come over for a cup of coffee. McElwain likes Shannon a lot, he was stressing his importance to his program when the rumors of Collins to UCF. I'd be surprised to see Shannon make that move when he still believes he could be a Head Coach again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JupiterBull Posted December 23, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 85 Content Count: 5,431 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 16 Joined: 02/08/2009 Share Posted December 23, 2015 5 minutes ago, Paisa el Toro said: I like the idea, but I think that Shannon is biding his time for another head coaching job. Some SEC position coaches get paid more than some defensive coordinators in our conference. I'm sure if Willie can make the money right, Shannon could be swayed to come over for a cup of coffee. http://gatorbytes.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2015/08/05/university-of-florida-releases-contracts-for-football-teams-coaching-staff/ Looks like Shannon makes @ $400K. Not sure what Allen gets paid, but I read $35,000. Hard to jump from LB coach to HC for Shannon, but not sure we'd be able to lure him away, even if we paid $600K...but maybe (not even sure how much $$ we have to spend). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls1181 Posted December 23, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 170 Content Count: 5,722 Reputation: 366 Days Won: 8 Joined: 08/03/2011 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Say it isn't so! Do we still keep the two incoming JUCO players that just signed? I figured we would keep Allen one more year, it stinks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
206BULL Posted December 23, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 66 Content Count: 4,777 Reputation: 899 Days Won: 6 Joined: 08/30/2009 Share Posted December 23, 2015 The best answer if he leaves is on staff currently. Coach Woodie is going to be a DC very soon whether it's at USF or another school. His promotion would solidify any recruiting class as he is our top recruiter, at also frees up a spot for Nicholas to be brought onto the staff full time(stole that last tidbit from a poster on another board but I liked it). Not that worried if Allen does leave to be honest. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted December 23, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,455 Reputation: 2,840 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I think the pool is $2.4mil this year. How would you split it? SCHOOL CONF ASSISTANT COACH SCHOOL PAY OTHER PAY TOTAL PAY MAX BONUS STAFF PAY 2016 RAISES Total South Florida AAC Tom Allen $350,000 $0 $350,000 $0 $1,739,700 $500,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC Danny Hope $250,000 $0 $250,000 $0 $1,739,700 $350,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC Raymond Woodie $235,000 $3,700 $238,700 $0 $1,739,700 $325,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC Ron Dugans $190,000 $0 $190,000 $0 $1,739,700 $250,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC Alonzo Hampton $170,000 $0 $170,000 $0 $1,739,700 $220,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC Eric Mathies $165,000 $2,500 $167,500 $0 $1,739,700 $200,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC David Reaves $150,000 $3,500 $153,500 $0 $1,739,700 $200,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC David Gilbertson $110,000 $0 $110,000 $0 $1,739,700 $125,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC Donte Pimpleton $110,000 -- $110,000 $0 $1,739,700 $125,000 2,400,000 $2,295,000 $105,000 Bonus Money $2,400,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPR Posted December 23, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 3,042 Reputation: 279 Days Won: 10 Joined: 03/09/2010 Share Posted December 23, 2015 21 minutes ago, Bulls1181 said: Say it isn't so! Do we still keep the two incoming JUCO players that just signed? I figured we would keep Allen one more year, it stinks! They already signed, so yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsandBulls Posted December 23, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 13 Content Count: 307 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/07/2006 Share Posted December 23, 2015 22 minutes ago, 206BULL said: The best answer if he leaves is on staff currently. Coach Woodie is going to be a DC very soon whether it's at USF or another school. His promotion would solidify any recruiting class as he is our top recruiter, at also frees up a spot for Nicholas to be brought onto the staff full time(stole that last tidbit from a poster on another board but I liked it). Not that worried if Allen does leave to be honest. I love Coach Woodie as a recruiter, but don't think hes ready to lead our Defense as far as putting together a scheme/game plan/play calling/ managing other defensive coaches. But I do also hope Nicholas is brought on full time or at least retained in his current role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfbullrider Posted December 23, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 3,222 Reputation: 387 Days Won: 8 Joined: 07/30/2011 Share Posted December 23, 2015 If we lose woodie shannon wood be a bigger need to help recruit. We could also afford about 600K for Shannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsandBulls Posted December 23, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 13 Content Count: 307 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/07/2006 Share Posted December 23, 2015 10 minutes ago, BDYZR said: I think the pool is $2.4mil this year. How would you split it? SCHOOL CONF ASSISTANT COACH SCHOOL PAY OTHER PAY TOTAL PAY MAX BONUS STAFF PAY 2016 RAISES Total South Florida AAC Tom Allen $350,000 $0 $350,000 $0 $1,739,700 $500,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC Danny Hope $250,000 $0 $250,000 $0 $1,739,700 $350,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC Raymond Woodie $235,000 $3,700 $238,700 $0 $1,739,700 $325,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC Ron Dugans $190,000 $0 $190,000 $0 $1,739,700 $250,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC Alonzo Hampton $170,000 $0 $170,000 $0 $1,739,700 $220,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC Eric Mathies $165,000 $2,500 $167,500 $0 $1,739,700 $200,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC David Reaves $150,000 $3,500 $153,500 $0 $1,739,700 $200,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC David Gilbertson $110,000 $0 $110,000 $0 $1,739,700 $125,000 2,400,000 South Florida AAC Donte Pimpleton $110,000 -- $110,000 $0 $1,739,700 $125,000 2,400,000 $2,295,000 $105,000 Bonus Money $2,400,000 I would definitely not just give everyone a raise as your have laid out. There are certain coaches who are up and comers who need raises to stop them from leaving for greener pastures, but there are others who you can keep at their current levels. With that said, most of our current staff have been with CWT for a while so imagine he just gives them all a nice pay bump without really evaluating who deserves to get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarnozdabull Posted December 23, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 95 Content Count: 2,430 Reputation: 876 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2009 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Im in the minority but I dont care Tom Allen = overrated 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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