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  1. 11 points
    We are building a wall between us and Orlando and UCF is going to pay for it!!
  2. 10 points
    They’re ****** UCiF. They’re always mad. That’s what they do in Mickey Mouse town.
  3. 6 points
    With all of the talk and excitement (and, if you are a petty, salty little b*tch to the east, controversy) surrounding USF's future football scheduling, I think it is important to put the new scheduling philosophy into context given the realities of our lease/stadium situation. Our lease with the Tampa Sports Authority, which went into effect for the 2017 season and runs through the 2027 season (6 years with a 5 year option), states that USF will play at least 6 home games per season at Raymond James. USF only has to pay the direct cost of game day expenses. For games where just the lower bowl is open, that runs about $200,000 per game, and I would imagine that games with the upper deck open adds another $50,000 per deck in direct expenses ($300,000 max in direct expenses). For the first 6 games, USF gets to keep all of the money generated from ticket sales (minus the lesser of 8% of the ticket price or $2.50 per ticket). For a seventh game, USF would only get 20% of net revenues after all direct expenses and licensing fees are paid by TSA. So it would appear that there is even less of a financial incentive for USF to host 7 home games in a season. USF doesn't generate any revenue from concession sales or parking, other than the parking spaces they are allocated for donors. Average attendance in 2017 was 31,400, and 2018 climbed to 38,500. Included in these numbers are non-revenue seats (students and comps), so USF probably averaged around 28,000 in actual ticket sales over the last two seasons. Assuming an average ticket cost of around $32.50, USF would generate $910,000 per game in total revenue from ticket sales. From that, they pay TSA about $200,000 for use of the stadium, and another $70,000 or so for the ticket surcharge, leaving an average net revenue of $640,000. Then you have to factor in the cost of the guarantee for the FCS opponents. That runs around $400,000 to $500,000. If USF is paying that out, then they are clearing about $200,000 from those FCS home games. Typically, against a G5 or P5 program they pay out $250,000 to cover travel costs, so for those games the net is around $400,000. In an average 6 home game season, USF likely generates around $2.2 million TOTAL for the season in net revenues from ticket sales. Given the terms of the lease, it makes more sense for USF to take a road "pay-day-game" over a 6th or 7th home game against an FCS foe or a lower-tier P5 program. For instance, the Alabama game in 2026 will pay USF $1 million. After deducting the $250,000 in travel expenses, the program will still net around $750,000. USF couldn't clear that much money even if it sold out the entire lower bowl, which we aren't able to do right now against lesser competition. The $1.9 million we are getting paid by Texas for the 2020 game is even more significant. Without a hefty ticket price increase, it would be IMPOSSIBLE for us to net $1,650,000 from any home game. Subtracting 12,500 student seats from Raymond James' capacity of roughly 66,000, leaves only 53,500 revenue generating tickets. The most we could net in that situation would be $1,350,000 or so. Assuming a sell-out against Florida and Alabama, those games will net us almost $1,000,000 more per game than we have been averaging over the past two seasons. That is without consideration to the increased revenues received by requiring the purchase of mini-game plans or season tickets in order to secure tickets for those marquee games.
  4. 6 points
    Here's my plan...we build an OCS, go all in, 50k seats, luxury boxes, scoreboards, the whole nine...then, strategic default. Let the bank take that **** over. They're going to have to rent it out to make back their money and we pit RJS and the new OCS against each other. We can rent our own OCS for the same price we're paying at RJS. Boom! You're welcome, Kelly.
  5. 6 points
    First, no one under the age of 70 and living outside the Bay confuses USF for the University of San Francisco. Second, 99% of our own still don't know why we're South Florida. Third, stop kidding yourself, no one gives a **** about UCF. And fourth, what is the correct number of fans "demanding excellence" before athletics makes it a reality?
  6. 5 points
    Colin Sherwin reporting that the Iconic U will be used university wide, announcement Monday. Zimmerman from the board of trustees and Zimmerman advertising agency will lead the transition
  7. 5 points
    That's unfortunate, the least we can do is win our one pay game and confirm for them that they made the right decision.
  8. 5 points
    I have to wonder if this is USF listening to the people or if Merrill lynch filed a cease and desist order and told USF they’d keep it confidential if USF quietly stopped using the logo. Either way, this is great news! I hated the yellow Bull.
  9. 5 points
    This is the most impressive thing. The whole university just seems diffenert with no Judy and for athletics Kelly at the helm. It seems more about connecting with its people. Nothing against Judy, she was fantastic but if she wasn't on the way out I don't think this happens.
  10. 5 points
    When does she drop it? I have been watching this thing for twenty minutes...
  11. 4 points
    Screw Casual Dan. Hate that guy. Always wearing jeans and birkenstocks to everything.
  12. 4 points
    I would LOVE to see WVU on the schedule again.
  13. 4 points
    This works on so many levels. First, it is good for our program. We don't make a lot of revenue from a typical home game, even against a bottom to middling P5 team such as Illinois or Syracuse. We will likely make almost as much money in one home game versus Bama or Florida than we would playing two against Syracuse and Illinois. You want to guarantee yourself a ticket to the game, you are going to have to pony up for season tickets or at least a 3 game plan. This will increase ticket sales across all the other games as well. Second, it undercuts UCF's argument that big name programs won't play them. When the team in the same conference as you are in 80 miles down the road is taking these deals, you can't say squat. Why would any major program consider a 1 for 1 with UCF if USF is willing to give them a 2 for 1. It really hurts UCF's scheduling philosophy. They NEED the home games to fund their program. We don't. It's as simple as that. Circumstances and context matter. If and when we do build an OCS, these types of deals will be much harder to come by and much harder to justify. So for all of those clamoring for an OCS realize that you don't necessarily get to have your cake and eat it too. Third, it generates local and national interest. If they aren't talking about you on ESPN, you are irrelevant. These types of games put us in the national spotlight and we will likely win a few of them. Fourth, it helps recruiting. Want to land a local player that's holding out for an SEC offer? Let him know he will get 4 or 5 games against SEC opponents while he is at USF. Have a player torn between UCF and USF? Ask him if he is amped for the road game at UNC or the ones in Miami, Tuscaloosa, and Gainesville. Finally, it creates excitement for the student body at the time of the games. The big game atmosphere at Ray Jay is electric. If you want the students to become lifelong Bulls football supporters you have to win them over in the 3 to 5 years that they are on campus or you've likely lost them for good. Great work VPoA Kelly!
  14. 4 points
    Luckily we have always done a great job of jamming the line and stopping power football...
  15. 4 points
  16. 4 points
    You're a Bulls fan so #2 will always hold a special place for you.
  17. 4 points
    What really kills me is how they now view themselves as God’s gift to college football after TWO good seasons. Three years ago they were 6-7 and lost a bowl game to Arkansas State by 3 touchdowns. Four years ago they were 0-12. Time for a reality check for those clowns.
  18. 4 points
    This sums it up perfectly .... "At the center of the latest faux controversy drummed up by UCF folks this month ..." They're such assklowns ....
  19. 4 points
  20. 4 points
    There wouldn't be 15K in the stands for "big" schools
  21. 4 points
    It only hurts your ego if your ego is inflated by grandiose delusional disorder.
  22. 4 points
    How about a quick donor list as we have topped the first $1000! @Velcro @Triple B @Apis Bull @TheGreatOutlaw @E.T. @BulledOver @Boomer @Gat-Rat Bull @TBBull717 @negron2002 @CountryBull @Azmodi @Brad @jchem1995 @bullfan04 @aircooled993 @TakeItOrLeavitt @Polkcountybull @swamprat @DELdaBull @DrewMFA @horny_gimli @dausfbulls11 @BDYZR @Bullumni @tbulls Great to see so many names already. Please help spread the word.
  23. 4 points
    Same old conversation. c. florida has done just about everything right and the timing, which is really out of their control, has been perfect. They look like a program that is a number one pick for P5 conference looking to expand. I used to think it was just about winning, but that is over simplistic. It is about winning the right games, not the P5 games, but the CC games that lead to the access bowl games, that is what gets attention. No one really cares that G5 programs occasionally beat P5 programs, it happens every year. They have had a combination of good coaching hires that have utilized their talent to maximum efficiency. They sell out their stadium (yes the OCS is a big deal, always has been, always will be), fan support is off the charts, the city supports them, College Gameday going there was a gut punch. CCS was right, they are the blueprint. We can learn from them and hopefully do it better.
  24. 4 points
    How many ways does this logical conclusion need to be stated for it to sink in ..... hell, even JT gets it.
  25. 4 points
    It'll be nice to see a baseball icon like Fenway without having to wade through dickweed Boston fans ....
  26. 3 points
    Yes! Many still talk about that #2 ranking like it was yesterday...it’s been 12 friggin years people. We got three weeks of pub then poof it was gone. Give me hardware and a NYD bowl game.
  27. 3 points
    Not at all. I’ll take a win over Florida. We beat UCF five times, right? Means nothing. AAC trophy? Nothing. You get to play a meaningless game against a disinterested P5. Nothing.
  28. 3 points
    I actually think that UCF stuck it in and broke it off. Alabama hasn't played an away game in thirty years (neutral site excepted). They are so pissed at UCF that they break a thirty year tradition just to sign with UCF's rival? Now, who in the SEC is going to go against Saban and now schedule one and ones? They may have just lost the SEC for a while. UCF seriously overestimated their position. If they don't sign some SoS games quickly, they may well be in trouble. I don't understand pissing off the same people who you are going to approach hat in hand and ask for a seat at the table. A lot like our Big 4 bill board, a little success can go to your head. But I think their AD has done some substantial damage relationship-wise along with their fans and media. The whole P6 embarrassment, self proclaimed Natty, alienating the other coaches in your conference, only considering one and ones, and pissing off the great Saban. I am beginning to understand why they are not Preeminent over there.
  29. 3 points
  30. 3 points
    Clemson doesn't want a piece of us ...... we own them.
  31. 3 points
    this scheduling philosophy does nothing for us, I mean who wants this caliber of a team on their schedule??? (sarcasm)
  32. 3 points
    As a Dad whose daughter just finished her freshman year in the USF Honors College, I'm absolutely thrilled. I'm not sure she'll ever take classes in the new building since she will graduate in just two more years, but it's still an amazingly generous and important gift for the future of our university. As much as we like to complain about how our athletic programs seem a bit stuck in the mud, the academic side of our U has put together the equivalent of multiple conference championships and New Year's Day bowl wins over the past few years. The momentum there is amazing and it's up to new Prez Currall to keep that moving.
  33. 3 points
    It amazes me that so many people on here are happy that she's leaving.
  34. 3 points
  35. 3 points
    and this is what we do when we see a UCF fan.....
  36. 3 points
  37. 3 points
    If UCF hates it then it’s probably good for us and bad for them, building up the P6, unititing with UCF and trying to be the dearest Dalit is a fools errand I’m glad we are hopefully distancing ourselves from. The only things wrong with our current scheduling is that it’s too AAC heavy and we play UCF too much. If we could actually load up on UF, Miami and P5 2 for ones I would gladly trade away half our home games against the dreck we have surrounded ourselves with. I’m willing to bet even with half the games our overall attendance would be higher, along with greater excitement and community involvement to be topped off with reduction in opex cherry on top.
  38. 3 points
    Aren't we still mad at them for slapping together that dangerous, rust bucket of a stadium? It doesn't resonate P5 at all!
  39. 3 points
    Do keep in mind that one of those championships was the season we rolled 64 points on them. One championship was a three way tie. So the two they have are legit in my book. As far as suffering through winless seasons to get a NYD win? I would have to think about that. I mean last year was a killer and it was only half way.
  40. 3 points
  41. 3 points
    Never understood why people think death or illness somehow absolves people of the life they chose to live. Cancer wouldn’t have made Hitler A-ok, dying didn’t make Osama the bees knees, Ted Bundy’s sins weren’t zapped away by old sparky and cancer didn’t kill the legacy that Steve spent his entire life trying to develop. The evil men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones, so let this be for Duemig. Anytime he had an opportunity to pivot or embrace USF he doubled down on ******** on our program and seemed to enjoy marginalizing our fanbase and actively trying to harm our growth in the community.
  42. 3 points
    D’ernest exemplifies the “never give up” mantra.
  43. 3 points
    It’s amazing how those at central high are pissed about this on the conference board. They say it hurts our conference and establishes a precedent that all members will have to sign such deals in the future. Here are my thoughts: 1. **** the Americans Athletic conference 2. **** central high 3. Decisions by USF come before conference considerations 4. We play anyone at anytime 5. We take other schools money and like it
  44. 3 points
    Bringing my girls! First Family Road Trip.
  45. 3 points
    If the logo shows up on ebay, I will buy it and use it for the site logo, and offer IRAs to go with "Girls of" threads
  46. 3 points
    Not a fan of the new logo. I am a season ticket holder in football; soon to be season ticket holder in MBB; attend tennis, baseball, and softball games. Donated $ to sports and education side of USF. I have USF in my will. How is that for passion?
  47. 3 points
    I'm just glad they scrapped it the USF thing to do would be to roll with it anyways. It took more balls to do this than to keep it. I do agree this is a fireable offense though
  48. 3 points
    1) Identify the issue of brand confusion by having too many logos and fonts 2) Hire firm to fix the issue 3) Have firm create a new logo with more fonts, colors and slogans 4) Accept that as a reasonable solution 5) Ignore the fact we already have popular logos and fonts 6) Do not properly vet the changes 7) Roll out the changes to pretty much universal hate and mockery 8 ) Ignore the consumers and start wasting more money on rebranding 9) Finish rebranding 10) Waste more money and revert everything to a logo you already had in house Everyone should be fired, if it weren't for horrible no good very bad money wasting ideas I am not sure if we would have any ideas at all. Heads should roll but they won't because its just USF doing USF things.
  49. 3 points
    Colin is saying it was backlash from alumni, staff, the Tampa Bay community, bacially everyone that forced the change.
  50. 3 points
    If by valuable you mean valueless, I concur completely ...
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