JupiterBull

Football: Flowers, Mack, Adams, Grothe, Selvie, Jenkins, Blackwell (JPP, but only 1 year). Basketball (M): Bradley, Dobras, Shahid, DoJo, Rudd Basketball (W): C Williams Tons of talent over the years.

It's unlikely they'd go to P6, I know, but our Conference Pres (or whatever his title) has been pushing that notion.

Nope...I'm not sure what guilt feels like, but I'm pretty sure this isn't it. But seriously, I didn't see any real hating on Taggart, but you clearly did (unless you were kidding). I'm merely stating you can be critical of his skills or actions without being a hater (and the term "hater" is so stupid & overused, IMO).

Unless we move to P5...or AAC becomes P6 (less likely)

I'm not sure who you're citing as haters, but my only negative is that I really don't think he was a great or smart coach. You can gauge a coach's skills without being a hater.

We're not arguing...I'm saying that's going to keep happening if we're mired in the AAC. It'd be cool to get someone loyal to the end, despite $$, but that may be a unicorn.

my take of Taggart: kids connect with him & love him. I don't think he's a bright coach, having watched countless head scratchers over his time here. At least with FSU, he can be the main recruiter to get them on campus & afford to hire top tier coaches to do the heaving lifting/thinking.

I have no issue with him moving up the ladder. My point is, a coach can say (and even legit feel) anything and be serious about building something at USF. But you start throwing big $$, and they bolt (as would 99% of coaches in that situation). But I'd rather have a coach dump us after a 10 win season than be stuck with a Holtz issue, where you flail AND pay him to leave.

Yup, as Taggart said, while here: I'm here to build something special. We can compete for an NC. Who's got it better than us? NO ONE! *Bolts to Oregon* *year later, Bolts to FSU*

Some a realistic, but I love this one: "We play better teams than UF, like GT, Pitt and Stanford". We also play GT, Stanford is a great get, but Pitt is lame. As ANY reasonable UCF fan if he'd rather play Pitt or UF.

You're a reasonable UCF alum/fan. What do you think of all these UCF'ers knocking USF for "weakening the brand" by "whoring" ourselves out for a 2 for 1? My take is: UCF's weaker schedule (true in the minds of voters of most G5 teams) was the main reason they didn't get a shot at NC (ok, maybe ESPN and P5 bias was co-main). This means you take any reasonable offer to play a good/great P5 team. I can't imagine UCF would turn down this deal, but maybe I just don't understand the UCF POV.

Nope

Or knew he was the home run swing he needed to save his job. I'm not a big Taggart fan, but promising QF a shot at QB saved our program (though I suppose Mike White MAY have excelled his last few years, had Flowers bolted).

Great point...I doubt Taggart would have brought a guy like this leading into Flowers' junior year.

I don't think McCloud will be a QB. Just my gut.