NewEnglandBull

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You are a good fan Gatorbull and I appreciate the dialogue. I will jump on the 8 win train with a 6-4 start. Get me a 2-2 start and I am good for 6 wins maybe 7. Lets let the season play out. It all starts soon.

Correct and my point is that they may be an improvement (I know the QB mostly likely is) but I don't think we can know how good they are until the season has a few games played. The new people produce more questions than than answers. I appreciate your passion but I can't see this team going beyond 6 wins (and that is with a lot of help and some lucky bounces) and will probably settle for 4/5 (with hope that it is 5). Sure if they knock off BYU, Florida, or Ville then we can talk 7/8 wins. But I just can't see that projection right now.

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Well that’s a good point and is personal to each of us. I am thinking I will be ok with it as it’s almost like winning every other week

Agreed and that is why I think this team can climb to 6 if things bounce right and we stay injury free…but 5 is most likely.

I think that is wrong. But I do feel he better get to five. Only winning four games is a whole lot of losing and people will start to drop like flies.

I think it is away

So you are basing your prediction on a bunch of coaches who were let go or demoted before coming to here and a bunch of players who were not good enough to make their own team? So who cares if you looked them up and watched their film, they were still not cutting it, and in terms of your player analysis, you see what you want you to want to see, and it is through green glasses (and its not like you are a professional evaluator of talent either). I never heard you say that any of them were "not" any good or "did not play well in certain situation", which is simply disingenuous with your analysis. Sure what is comming may be better but better than what? A 2-12 team? Ok...but is it better than the other 10 teams we played and lost to last year? Do you think that they just sat around and did nothing as we added? Further, in terms of players from last year, the nucleus is still coming back, so yeah, I'll still base my comments on last year’s team as it still has relevancy.

I was saying going from 2 to 5 is unlikely. But not impossible….

Please….Decisions are made on trends and trends are based on past data so what I’m telling you is not false arrogance. To jump from 2 wins to 5 is unlikely but going from 2 to 8 or something crazy is just drinking the cool aid and is nothing more than propaganda. My perspective at least has some quantitative reason, yours is based on hope.

I’ve said 6 wins is a strong possibility but some of you “current” team people are completely off your rocker…8 wins being possible …9 wins, etc. I would rather be surprised than disappointed and that is what some of you will most likely be. Vegas is wrong about 10% of the time. I hope we fall in that percentage.