Bull94 Posted September 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 3, 2015 http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/coaches/skip-holtz-1.html Man skip was such a great coach, he really built a dynasty at ECU against some quality opponents. 3 CUSA East Division Champs, 2 CUSA championships ... 6 wins over BCS teams incuding WVU and Va Tech, a win over Boise State ... Seriously, slam him for what he didn't do here but trying to minimize what he did at ECU is just plain silly. So is blindly worshipping a guy who didn't work out here. Nobody's worshiping anybody ... just throwing out some facts. He didn't work out here but it doesn't diminish what he did before coming here. ...his tenure at ECU was analogous to Dykes's time at La Tech. So when you said Dykes put LA Tech on the map, you mean Holtz put ECU on the map as well? It's fair to say that he did, but I was referring to him crashing our program. They both helped to infuse life into floundering programs saying that shouldn't come at the cost of the others accomplishments. I have yet to see a single person on this board argue Holtz shouldn't have been fired from USF. But like Trip said, that doesn't mean he didn't do a **** good job before coming here and he's doing just fine since leaving. I'll never understand why people would defend a coach that was without a doubt an absolute failure here. he did o.k. at ECU. he didn't do a **** fine job. he has never lost fewer than 5 games anywhere he has been. he has a record of 67-61 over his last 10 years which include all of ECU, USF and La Tech. that's essentially 6-6 every year on average. according to that link he has had only 2 seasons where his SOS was above average and that was just barely and they were the last 2 years here. he is an average coach at best and he hit his ceiling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellular1 Posted September 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 196 Content Count: 6,615 Reputation: 1,782 Days Won: 51 Joined: 07/04/2008 Share Posted September 3, 2015 But he's smart. Gotta love double pay!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted September 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted September 3, 2015 But he's smart. Gotta love double pay!!! He's smart, but he had no marbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000bull Posted September 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 83 Content Count: 7,041 Reputation: 634 Days Won: 11 Joined: 06/04/2009 Share Posted September 3, 2015 But he's smart. Gotta love double pay!!! He's smart, but he had no marbles. but he did have lots of extra time out flags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skingraft Posted September 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 743 Content Count: 13,357 Reputation: 2,482 Days Won: 63 Joined: 12/11/2006 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Horrible hire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsBoltsJagsRays Posted September 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 262 Reputation: 153 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/06/2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 But he's smart. Gotta love double pay!!! He's smart, but he had no marbles. but he did have lots of extra time out flags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted September 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Horrible hire The hire never bothered me. But it was all downhill from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls On Parade Posted September 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 10,201 Reputation: 1,714 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/02/2005 Share Posted September 3, 2015 On paper was a good hire. We just need to give CWT time he inherited the program in shambles..the trajectory appears up hopefully it continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptorcj Posted September 3, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 8,878 Reputation: 1,266 Days Won: 28 Joined: 07/12/2013 Share Posted September 3, 2015 On paper was a good hire. We just need to give CWT time he inherited the program in shambles..the trajectory appears up hopefully it continues. The trajectory to me looks more like a flat line between 2012/13/14 seasons. Let's hope the slope is up, starting Saturday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted September 3, 2015 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,654 Reputation: 10,882 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Horrible hire The hire never bothered me. But it was all downhill from there. Not all downhill from the hire. 2010 season was level with a spike at the end with our first bowl win against a BCS team. 4-0 start in 2011 ...... and then came Pitt, and the plummeting commenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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