Ouch

[Roaming Bull]

Can we get a class by class recruiting breakdown for Dykes? We also need to figure out how in game adjustments impact each win by each coach to see who makes better decisions. Also, please include a matrix for grading player development. These will all be important factors for settling this. Please feel free to add to this base. I almost forgot we need a season by season sheet created with every stat included side by side to judge on that as well. Am I missing anything?

[Triple B]

 

Skip was indeed a bad recruiter here and not because of the sling and shoot incident. Part of it was his fault and part of it was imposed on him by the administration. Skip wasn't in over his head but he was definitely sold a different bill of goods than what he walked into. Skip had no idea what he was really walking into and by the summer of his last season had all but checked out in a lot of ways....

 

Checked out after signing an extension a few months earlier?  

 

Nice.  

 

I don't know how true that is, but that speaks a few volumes if it is.  

 

 

Don't know about the checking out part but I had also heard that the playing field had changed some in regard to recruiting ...

[Triple B]

Can we get a class by class recruiting breakdown for Dykes? We also need to figure out how in game adjustments impact each win by each coach to see who makes better decisions. Also, please include a matrix for grading player development. These will all be important factors for settling this. Please feel free to add to this base. I almost forgot we need a season by season sheet created with every stat included side by side to judge on that as well. Am I missing anything?

 

Deadline?

[Bull94]

 

 

Skip was indeed a bad recruiter here and not because of the sling and shoot incident. Part of it was his fault and part of it was imposed on him by the administration. Skip wasn't in over his head but he was definitely sold a different bill of goods than what he walked into. Skip had no idea what he was really walking into and by the summer of his last season had all but checked out in a lot of ways....

 

Checked out after signing an extension a few months earlier?  

 

Nice.  

 

I don't know how true that is, but that speaks a few volumes if it is.  

 

 

Don't know about the checking out part but I had also heard that the playing field had changed some in regard to recruiting ...

 

That I believe. I think they wanted him to clean things up a bit after Leavitt. Not that we had any problems but it did seem like academics became more of an issue. I think his hands were tied when it came to marginal students.

[JTrue]

 

 

Skip was indeed a bad recruiter here and not because of the sling and shoot incident. Part of it was his fault and part of it was imposed on him by the administration. Skip wasn't in over his head but he was definitely sold a different bill of goods than what he walked into. Skip had no idea what he was really walking into and by the summer of his last season had all but checked out in a lot of ways....

 

Checked out after signing an extension a few months earlier?  

 

Nice.  

 

I don't know how true that is, but that speaks a few volumes if it is.  

 

 

Don't know about the checking out part but I had also heard that the playing field had changed some in regard to recruiting ...

 

The rumor I always heard was that he was specifically told academics (APR) were a priority in recruiting and he had to pass on some athletes USF would have gotten in the past. Then when the W/L column took a hit, his recruiting was called into question.

[GaUSFBull]

 

 

 

Skip was indeed a bad recruiter here and not because of the sling and shoot incident. Part of it was his fault and part of it was imposed on him by the administration. Skip wasn't in over his head but he was definitely sold a different bill of goods than what he walked into. Skip had no idea what he was really walking into and by the summer of his last season had all but checked out in a lot of ways....

 

Checked out after signing an extension a few months earlier?  

 

Nice.  

 

I don't know how true that is, but that speaks a few volumes if it is.  

 

 

Don't know about the checking out part but I had also heard that the playing field had changed some in regard to recruiting ...

 

The rumor I always heard was that he was specifically told academics (APR) were a priority in recruiting and he had to pass on some athletes USF would have gotten in the past. Then when the W/L column took a hit, his recruiting was called into question.

 

 

And then suddenly, he came up with the great idea that more golf = better recruits.  

[GaUSFBull]

If the brass was concerned about his recruiting, why give him an extension?

 

The idiocy of Woolard et al during the Holtz New Era gives me a **** headache. 

[JTrue]

 

 

 

 

Skip was indeed a bad recruiter here and not because of the sling and shoot incident. Part of it was his fault and part of it was imposed on him by the administration. Skip wasn't in over his head but he was definitely sold a different bill of goods than what he walked into. Skip had no idea what he was really walking into and by the summer of his last season had all but checked out in a lot of ways....

 

Checked out after signing an extension a few months earlier?  

 

Nice.  

 

I don't know how true that is, but that speaks a few volumes if it is.  

 

 

Don't know about the checking out part but I had also heard that the playing field had changed some in regard to recruiting ...

 

The rumor I always heard was that he was specifically told academics (APR) were a priority in recruiting and he had to pass on some athletes USF would have gotten in the past. Then when the W/L column took a hit, his recruiting was called into question.

 

 

And then suddenly, he came up with the great idea that more golf = better recruits.  

 

Correct. But that was after he started kicking puppies and knocking over kids' ice cream.

[2000bull]

 

 

 

 

Skip was indeed a bad recruiter here and not because of the sling and shoot incident. Part of it was his fault and part of it was imposed on him by the administration. Skip wasn't in over his head but he was definitely sold a different bill of goods than what he walked into. Skip had no idea what he was really walking into and by the summer of his last season had all but checked out in a lot of ways....

 

Checked out after signing an extension a few months earlier?  

 

Nice.  

 

I don't know how true that is, but that speaks a few volumes if it is.  

 

 

Don't know about the checking out part but I had also heard that the playing field had changed some in regard to recruiting ...

 

The rumor I always heard was that he was specifically told academics (APR) were a priority in recruiting and he had to pass on some athletes USF would have gotten in the past. Then when the W/L column took a hit, his recruiting was called into question.

 

 

And then suddenly, he came up with the great idea that more golf = better recruits.  

 

didn't our golf team do pretty well when he was here?

[GaUSFBull]

Sorry for the trip post, but as an answer to the question I posed above, please don't say anything about Holtz being mentioned as a candidate at another school, like Arkansas.  Coming off a 5-7 season after consistently winning 8-9 games for years with Leavitt, that's BS.