USF better get Willie to sign an extension.

[206BULL]

FWIW

[Apis Bull]

FWIW

But, but, but...that can't be.  Coaches don't adapt as the season progresses and as they begin to see that their players are starting to get it. </sarcasm>

[Bull94]

So, you posted an article from 2014 prior to our 1-3 start where we looked like absolute dog**** and the bus was hanging from the cliff by one wheel. Come on now... what in the world would make you think Coach Taggart has been calling the plays since the Memphis loss? The offense has been completely revamped since he gave up control over it. You can't just turn greatness on and off Sherlock. I gave Taggart credit where credit is due - he was intelligent enough to give up his play calling duties with the offense when he proved too inept to make something with the talent he had on the field - heck, he had two seasons and four games where the results were smacking him in the face screaming "FAIL!". Furthermore, his in-game management left a lot to be desired. 

Coach Taggart shifted responsibility and it saved his job - simple as that. Coach Taggart is one heck've a salesman (and that's a great thing when utilized correctly) - similar to Seth Greenberg (someone else I really like). However, the game day decision making from both coaches has left a lot to be desired. I don't care who the head coach is - I just want to win. I'm not foolish enough to think things just clicked for him between the Memphis and Syracuse games and he's been calling a totally different brand of football ever since. That's foolish. And when I have two individuals affiliated with the program indicating play calling responsibilities shifted at halftime of the Syracuse game, I take their word on it (one is a player's father - the other is the former player's rep). 

So diagnose away Bulls94. If I'm wrong on something, I'll own it. 

There's a lot of coaching experience in those offices right now - and at least one coach knows what it feels like to stare at the grim reaper when his job is on the line. I wouldn't be surprised if Hope gave Coach Taggart a "Coming to Jesus" moment after the Memphis game and Taggart saw the writing on the wall after we stumbled out of the gates against Syracuse. Things were pretty bad in Tampa going into that game... there was no getting around it. 

 

I guess you'll come back now and admit you were wrong.More than likely you will disappear or dig in your heels. Like I said cognitive dissonance. You are trying to come up with an explanation of why you weren't wrong. How about watching the video where after our Cincy win last week Price gives Taggart credit for calling the plays. and now the quote from Joey Knight.

 

I get you think you are well connected to the program and that some former player rep who probably isn't even connected at all with the current staff might have some inside knowledge but it looks like your sources were wrong. No doubt at all that Taggart gets input from both his coaches and his players. He would be dumb not to but to think he somehow magically gave up play calling duties in the middle of a game and that's what turned everything around is naive at best.

 

The turn around occurred when Flowers asked for a meeting with Taggart and told the coach to trust him. I believe it was after the Memphis loss. That's when the play calling shifted to a more wide open approach. Taggart didn't feel he needed to be so conservative anymore. He started to believe in Flowers.

 

the haters need to start giving Taggart credit. It';s ok to admit you were wrong. Just like the Quinton Flowers haters need to admit they were wrong. notice most of them are gone now. some like J true still hold out hope that Woulard will beat him out next year so his beliefs can be validated.

[inTransit]

But, but, but...that can't be.  Coaches don't adapt as the season progresses and as they begin to see that their players are starting to get it. </sarcasm>

I find that article in the Times pretty funny, it seems like there are more than just a few people believing Hope is calling the plays.  Whatever process he has for taking OC 'input' into his decision making on that end is working.  Id be wary of any disruption to either of the two co-oc's and head coach as it might have a negative impact on our soaring offense.

Edited November 25, 2015 by inTransit

[Bull94]

Thank you. 

To think that Taggart suddenly "got it" or that his master plan finally took shape is a bit preposterous. My biggest complaint about Taggart was that I did not think his system was working (correct) and that I figured he was too stubborn or too stupid to admit this to himself or the world and change (incorrect) I'm glad he's finally shifted course and (likely) let his assistants have more input on offense. That's smart on his part. I still don't think he's a great coach, but I didn't really think Leavitt was either. If you can recruit well, develop that talent, and designate responsibility among yourself and the asst coaches, that is smart and can be successful. I have seen lots of coaches do this and enjoy considerable success. Only absolute geniuses at head coach can have a heavy hand in every aspect of the program, like a Belichek or (college) Chip Kelly. He didn't wake up after the Memphis game and say "Okay I think NOW I will start to try scoring" his smash mouth, grind it out offense wasn't working, and it will never work at any high level unless you are a school up north where 6'8 330 lb linemen grow on trees in your area. 

And again, this was smart of him to realize, and I applaud him for it. It was also smart in that it saved his job. He could have gone to his grave trying to win "his way" and several other coaches in this world have, instead of being humble/smart enough to recognize their way won't work. If you coach at USF, you are likely going to have better, faster athletes than your opponent in conference most days, and to play a more "old school" style of play just negates this advantage. 

For this, yeah maybe you tack on a year, or 2, to his contract if he finishes the year strong, if the price is still right. My only concern long term would be if his assistants get poached by bigger schools, and we're back to Willie deciding he's the best guy for the job calling O, and just makes some bargain basement hire to replace those assistants with cheap "yes men". That's on the AD too to retain those guys, and try to keep them here instead of letting them walk. Part of me believes that's why Leavitt's program plateaued, other schools would constantly come in and pick up these underpaid assistants, and they never were able to replace them adequately with the limited budget on assistants. 

What will being wrong do to your belief that Taggart isn't a good coach? will you now admit you were wrong or will you try and come up with another explanation of why you could still be correct?

 

My guess is you will either disappear so you don't have to admit it and then you will come back when he inevitably hits a rough patch or you will dig in and still believe that the assistants are running the show.

 

Taggart suddenly got it when Flowers came to him and told him to trust him after the memphis game.

Why some of you don't understand that a coach would be conservative with a 2nd year QB with 5 starts under his belt is amazing to me. He took the reigns off so to speak.

Taggart isn't infallible. He will make mistakes. He looks like he is willing to learn from them though. Personally I think he is doing a hell of a job and he is only 39 years old. He has a ton of upside as a coach.

[Bull94]

 

 

Edited November 25, 2015 by Bull94

[namuh-bull]

 

 

Bull94, that could be the most profound thing ever written on the board.

 

Go Bulls!

[The Sheriff]

Triple B... we're not Taggart haters - we're Bulls fans that are realistic about what we witnessed for the last two seasons. Cambodia36's assessment was spot on - wish I could have it said just as clearly - but it was EXACTLY the message I was attempting to convey. If we keep winning and you guys call me a hating fool, I'm fine with it. I just want to keep winning. Nothing has been sugar coated on the other forums I participate in with the former players and coaches - there is no filter for many of the guys when they add their personal narrative. Honestly, I'm one of the more PC individuals in those discussions. Some players though have gone Trump on the staff over the body of work for the last two years - and yes, the coaches are privy to our comments as they have responded back to us.  

[The Sheriff]

Donald Trump also stood by his story of seeing thousands of Muslims in Jersey City celebrating the towers coming down on 9/11/2001. I'll leave it at that...

[NewEnglandBull]

Who really gives a **** if CWT is calling plays or not? Bottom line he made the adjustments and we are winning. I could care less about 2007, 2015, the first team ever, etc. That is yesterdays news. The football climate has changed and it looks like USF is changing also. For the here and now USF is successful and I love that we are relevant again.