Hem Posted September 17, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 4,663 Reputation: 401 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/24/2012 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Why don't we wait until someone can actually take a 3 step drop before we start making assumptions like this? Have you all really not noticed that as soon as the ball is hiked, the QB is already under pressure? We could have Peyton Manning back there right now and he wouldn't be winning games for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted September 17, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted September 17, 2014 anybody who thinks a grown man would risk a million dollar job by benching a player worthy of time is insane. Anybody who thinks every decision is rational and based strictly on fact doesn't understand human nature. There is always an emotional component, no matter if it is a "million dollar job" or not. Happens in all walks of life, it's why your boss and CEO make decisions that seem odd to you. Sports history is littered with players that only got on the field because of injury and proved they were far superior to the person in front of them. Lots of coaches make poor decisions based on all sorts of things that have little to do with on field effectiveness. But we can pretend Taggart always makes the best decision for the team, if it makes everyone feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCBull Posted September 17, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 112 Content Count: 8,159 Reputation: 864 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/25/2008 Share Posted September 17, 2014 anybody who thinks a grown man would risk a million dollar job by benching a player worthy of time is insane. Anybody who thinks every decision is rational and based strictly on fact doesn't understand human nature. There is always an emotional component, no matter if it is a "million dollar job" or not. Happens in all walks of life, it's why your boss and CEO make decisions that seem odd to you. Sports history is littered with players that only got on the field because of injury and proved they were far superior to the person in front of them. Lots of coaches make poor decisions based on all sorts of things that have little to do with on field effectiveness. But we can pretend Taggart always makes the best decision for the team, if it makes everyone feel better. Shadow, I agree with you. But if your CEO promoted someone because of favoritism and that person ended up being clearly bad at their job (to the detriment of the company), wouldn't there come a point where a change would be made regardless of favoritism? In other words, at some point the favored loses favor...do you see that happening here at some point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted September 17, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted September 17, 2014 anybody who thinks a grown man would risk a million dollar job by benching a player worthy of time is insane. Anybody who thinks every decision is rational and based strictly on fact doesn't understand human nature. There is always an emotional component, no matter if it is a "million dollar job" or not. Happens in all walks of life, it's why your boss and CEO make decisions that seem odd to you. Sports history is littered with players that only got on the field because of injury and proved they were far superior to the person in front of them. Lots of coaches make poor decisions based on all sorts of things that have little to do with on field effectiveness. But we can pretend Taggart always makes the best decision for the team, if it makes everyone feel better. Shadow, I agree with you. But if your CEO promoted someone because of favoritism and that person ended up being clearly bad at their job (to the detriment of the company), wouldn't there come a point where a change would be made regardless of favoritism? In other words, at some point the favored loses favor...do you see that happening here at some point? Yanking White at this point means CWT had to pull his chosen starter, the guy he openly declared had won the job, in back to back years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted September 17, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Point of order, White didn't, "win" the job last season. He got it by default because Bench got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted September 17, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 17, 2014 anybody who thinks a grown man would risk a million dollar job by benching a player worthy of time is insane. Anybody who thinks every decision is rational and based strictly on fact doesn't understand human nature. There is always an emotional component, no matter if it is a "million dollar job" or not. Happens in all walks of life, it's why your boss and CEO make decisions that seem odd to you. Sports history is littered with players that only got on the field because of injury and proved they were far superior to the person in front of them. Lots of coaches make poor decisions based on all sorts of things that have little to do with on field effectiveness. But we can pretend Taggart always makes the best decision for the team, if it makes everyone feel better. Shadow, I agree with you. But if your CEO promoted someone because of favoritism and that person ended up being clearly bad at their job (to the detriment of the company), wouldn't there come a point where a change would be made regardless of favoritism? In other words, at some point the favored loses favor...do you see that happening here at some point? yes there would. if bench was so much better than white than he would have won the job by now. he has had 3 opportunities, two of them before white ever saw the field. the only reason he even pulled white's redshirt is because bench couldn't get the job done. fact is and stats prove that white is better equiped to run the offense. it's unfortunate that he is not doing a better job but he is our best option at this point. bench has had 3 chances and hasn't taken advantage of them. insanity - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Einstein why do people think giving bench a 4th chance will somehow be different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted September 17, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted September 17, 2014 It is not about can he evaluate talent. The question is can he and his coaching staff DEVELOP the talent which they have evaluated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANJAY Posted September 17, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 300 Content Count: 7,993 Reputation: 968 Days Won: 21 Joined: 10/31/2005 Share Posted September 17, 2014 It is not about can he evaluate talent. The question is can he and his coaching staff DEVELOP the talent which they have evaluated? Those are fair questions and the jury is still out. Initial thoughts, at least on the offensive side of the ball, are not good. However, our special teams have generally been better - notable exception is Maryland game. Defense got better as the year went on last year and I expect the same this year. A lot of youth in a lot of places. Both special teams and defense were not good in 2012. Biggest concern is the OL and why we cannot seem to block worth a dang. On the one hand these guys had BJ running for his life 2 years ago, but on the other hand we haven't seen tangible results on the field as to their effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted September 17, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 17, 2014 It is not about can he evaluate talent. The question is can he and his coaching staff DEVELOP the talent which they have evaluated? Those are fair questions and the jury is still out. Initial thoughts, at least on the offensive side of the ball, are not good. However, our special teams have generally been better - notable exception is Maryland game. Defense got better as the year went on last year and I expect the same this year. A lot of youth in a lot of places. Both special teams and defense were not good in 2012. Biggest concern is the OL and why we cannot seem to block worth a dang. On the one hand these guys had BJ running for his life 2 years ago, but on the other hand we haven't seen tangible results on the field as to their effectiveness. not saying it's the case here but sometimes all the coaching in the world won't make a difference. can't blame my high school coaches for why I didn't make it into the NBA. all they can do is coach to potential. it could very well be a talent issue which can't be corrected with coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fla331boy Posted September 17, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 831 Reputation: 103 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Then alter the play calls for the ability of your team. Stop trying drop back and throw the ball 10 or more yards downfield. As a team we have not shown any ability, in 15 games, to do so. No reason we can't run quick, short throws just to get the ball to Adams or Welch or Mack or Price or Mcfarland. Even if is behind the line of scrimmage it gets the ball in their hands in space. Worst case scenario it stretches the DL horizontally and helps open the running lanes. Better than incompletes 12 yards down the fiels because the line can't block, the receivers can't catch and the QB can't deliver a perfect pass. I agree. We have to work with the bad batch of QBs on our roster. It doesn't help that our front line can't hold a block to save anyone's life. Nonethless, we need to switch things up and get the ball out quicker and into our playmakers hands (if we have any) and see what happens. Yes, our QB play has been terrible but thank god we have a defense that allows us to have a chance at winning and better field position. What are everyone's thoughts about mixing in some read-option plays with flowers here and there as well now that his shirt is burnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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