Can Taggart evaluate talent?

[Rocky Style]

I think he has a plan. We may not know what it is yet though

[Triple B]

 

 

 

 

 

The problem I have with White is that White hasn't shown he deserves to remain starter.

Most coaches pull players that play badly, especially the QB. Taggart refuses.

Sure Bench hasn't made a great case for himself but White has had every chance and fails every time.

Bench has had just as many chances and has failed.

 

We've been through this all week.  Bench has barely had 1/4 of the opportunities given to White and the offense has performed at least as well but probably better.

 

Please cite me statistics that show Bench has had "as many chances".

 

 

It's kind of funny that Bull94 has chosen this point to finally go quiet on. 

 

 

 

NAME               CMP    ATT    YDS    CMP%        YDS/A            TD   INT   RAT 

Mike White         14       43      275     32.6           6.40              1      1      89.3 

 

Steven Bench    15        37      172     40.5           4.65               0      1     74.2 

 

 

 

6 more attempts. Personally, I'd like to see Bench get more time because he's more like what I've been accustomed to watching at that position back in the good times ... but he had a great chance to prove himself ON THE FIELD in the 4th quarter of the Md game and he made 2 boneheaded decisions to effectively wipe out any small chance we may have had to pull that game out that may be playing into the coaches' decisions. 

 

 

This is your argument?

 

 

 

Better than your "he gave me cookies and milk so I'm starting him over an obviously much better player" ....

[Triple B]

I got a chance to speak with Tags at an event just before the season and after he announced White as the starter.  Asked him how tough the decision was between the two.  He said it was really tough and the two were very close.  So if one of them fractures a wrist and they were that close, why wouldn't you start the other.

 

I've said it before and will repeat it here. I believe that after pulling Floyd, the guy he named starter after preseason competition, after one half last year that he is sticking to White out of principle.  Changing QBs after one game would be admitting that he screwed this up again so is determined to stick with White as long as he can. 

 

Or he's sticking with White because he still believes he gives him the best chance to win .. Still can't overlook Bench's 4th quarter against Md where he pretty much crapped away any chance to at least send the game to OT. Looking at the tapes, maybe they feel MW's decision making is still better than SB's and he's giving him every chance to bring the physical part up to it ... Either way, I don't think it's got anything to do with the Floyd situation.

[Bulls2k]

Point of order, White didn't, "win" the job last season. He got it by default because Bench got hurt.

So he won it under excruiating circumstances....as they say a wins a win.

If he "got it" then regardless of how he got it he still "won" it becuase someone else didn't get it.

If the other team forfiets a game, although not ideal, you still win (won) the game.

Edited September 18, 2014 by Bulls2k

[ckparrothead]

I agree with those that say that Steven Bench should probably be starting.

 

They both have serious issues. I think Bench may have fewer. But White is younger and gives you more hope of improvement purely due to his age, so that's probably why Taggart is being very consistent in his decision to go with White.

[Who'sYourData?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

The problem I have with White is that White hasn't shown he deserves to remain starter.

Most coaches pull players that play badly, especially the QB. Taggart refuses.

Sure Bench hasn't made a great case for himself but White has had every chance and fails every time.

Bench has had just as many chances and has failed.

 

We've been through this all week.  Bench has barely had 1/4 of the opportunities given to White and the offense has performed at least as well but probably better.

 

Please cite me statistics that show Bench has had "as many chances".

 

 

It's kind of funny that Bull94 has chosen this point to finally go quiet on. 

 

 

 

NAME               CMP    ATT    YDS    CMP%        YDS/A            TD   INT   RAT 

Mike White         14       43      275     32.6           6.40              1      1      89.3 

 

Steven Bench    15        37      172     40.5           4.65               0      1     74.2 

 

 

 

6 more attempts. Personally, I'd like to see Bench get more time because he's more like what I've been accustomed to watching at that position back in the good times ... but he had a great chance to prove himself ON THE FIELD in the 4th quarter of the Md game and he made 2 boneheaded decisions to effectively wipe out any small chance we may have had to pull that game out that may be playing into the coaches' decisions. 

 

 

This is your argument?

 

 

 

Better than your "he gave me cookies and milk so I'm starting him over an obviously much better player" ....

 

 

Not my point at all, and you still don't understand after being discussed all week.

 

My point is that White has traits that he likes so he is sticking with him.  It should be about production, not about traits.  Once you have clearly seen the production isn't there, move on to others and see if the production is there.

[Who'sYourData?]

 

I got a chance to speak with Tags at an event just before the season and after he announced White as the starter.  Asked him how tough the decision was between the two.  He said it was really tough and the two were very close.  So if one of them fractures a wrist and they were that close, why wouldn't you start the other.

 

I've said it before and will repeat it here. I believe that after pulling Floyd, the guy he named starter after preseason competition, after one half last year that he is sticking to White out of principle.  Changing QBs after one game would be admitting that he screwed this up again so is determined to stick with White as long as he can. 

 

Or he's sticking with White because he still believes he gives him the best chance to win .. Still can't overlook Bench's 4th quarter against Md where he pretty much crapped away any chance to at least send the game to OT. Looking at the tapes, maybe they feel MW's decision making is still better than SB's and he's giving him every chance to bring the physical part up to it ... Either way, I don't think it's got anything to do with the Floyd situation.

 

 

I do love how you bring up Bench's 4th quarter and how "bad" you believe he did.  But you don't mention how White has been just as bad or worse for a longer stretch.  Bench performed better in the first three quarters than White has in any quarter this year.

[Rocky Style]

I think he can evaluate fine. He doesn't have enough guys in place yet.

[Triple B]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The problem I have with White is that White hasn't shown he deserves to remain starter.

Most coaches pull players that play badly, especially the QB. Taggart refuses.

Sure Bench hasn't made a great case for himself but White has had every chance and fails every time.

Bench has had just as many chances and has failed.

 

We've been through this all week.  Bench has barely had 1/4 of the opportunities given to White and the offense has performed at least as well but probably better.

 

Please cite me statistics that show Bench has had "as many chances".

 

 

It's kind of funny that Bull94 has chosen this point to finally go quiet on. 

 

 

 

NAME               CMP    ATT    YDS    CMP%        YDS/A            TD   INT   RAT 

Mike White         14       43      275     32.6           6.40              1      1      89.3 

 

Steven Bench    15        37      172     40.5           4.65               0      1     74.2 

 

 

 

6 more attempts. Personally, I'd like to see Bench get more time because he's more like what I've been accustomed to watching at that position back in the good times ... but he had a great chance to prove himself ON THE FIELD in the 4th quarter of the Md game and he made 2 boneheaded decisions to effectively wipe out any small chance we may have had to pull that game out that may be playing into the coaches' decisions. 

 

 

This is your argument?

 

 

 

Better than your "he gave me cookies and milk so I'm starting him over an obviously much better player" ....

 

 

Not my point at all, and you still don't understand after being discussed all week.

 

My point is that White has traits that he likes so he is sticking with him.  It should be about production, not about traits.  Once you have clearly seen the production isn't there, move on to others and see if the production is there.

 

 

So you're saying it's time to give Wilson a shot then ...

[DELdaBull]

The problem I have with White is that White hasn't shown he deserves to remain starter.

Most coaches pull players that play badly, especially the QB. Taggart refuses.

Sure Bench hasn't made a great case for himself but White has had every chance and fails every time.

Bench has had just as many chances and has failed.

We've been through this all week. Bench has barely had 1/4 of the opportunities given to White and the offense has performed at least as well but probably better.

Please cite me statistics that show Bench has had "as many chances".

It's kind of funny that Bull94 has chosen this point to finally go quiet on.

NAME CMP ATT YDS CMP% YDS/A TD INT RAT

Mike White 14 43 275 32.6 6.40 1 1 89.3

Steven Bench 15 37 172 40.5 4.65 0 1 74.2

6 more attempts. Personally, I'd like to see Bench get more time because he's more like what I've been accustomed to watching at that position back in the good times ... but he had a great chance to prove himself ON THE FIELD in the 4th quarter of the Md game and he made 2 boneheaded decisions to effectively wipe out any small chance we may have had to pull that game out that may be playing into the coaches' decisions.

This is your argument?

Better than your "he gave me cookies and milk so I'm starting him over an obviously much better player" ....

Not my point at all, and you still don't understand after being discussed all week.

My point is that White has traits that he likes so he is sticking with him. It should be about production, not about traits. Once you have clearly seen the production isn't there, move on to others and see if the production is there.

So you're saying it's time to give Wilson a shot then ...

I think that is EXACTLY what the poster is saying.