GaUSFBull Posted March 14, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted March 14, 2017 51 minutes ago, BDYZR said: Now all we need is a guy to light up the record book while all the keyboard gurus write about how much he sucks. I hear the corner drugstore is selling those for cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega Posted March 14, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 303 Content Count: 5,982 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/12/2008 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Whenever a sports team hires a new coach, we all immediately ask the same question: Good or bad hire? That's the question we asked Tuesday when we learned USF was going to hire Brian Gregory to be its new men's basketball coach. Good or bad hire? The answer is not so cut-and-dried. Or exciting. Instead, the answer is "Who knows?" accompanied by a shrug and, maybe, a yawn. That's what USF basketball has come to. Frankly, this is what we've come to expect. Another wait-and-see hire that doesn't make much of a splash. Because of its sorry history, USF can't expect anyone to uncross his or her arms and give the Bulls the benefit of the doubt on anything related to men's hoops. Gregory might be a heck of a nice guy and really sharp when it comes to basketball. But this isn't the type of hire that excites whatever little fan base remains and entices skeptical recruits to one of the worst basketball programs we have ever seen. This is the man who is going to turn USF into a winner? This is the best USF could do? A 50-year-old whose career coaching highlight was getting to the second round of the NCAA Tournament eight years ago? Was there no one else? What about Joe Dooley, the coach who has Florida Gulf Coast in the big dance? What about former Alabama coach and Florida assistant Anthony Grant? There was intriguing talk about LeBron James' old high school coach. When you see what else is out there and how quickly USF moved on the hire, you wonder if Gregory was the only guy who returned USF's phone call. Surprising that USF athletic director Mark Harlan didn't jump in his car and use $10 worth of gas to drive over to Orlando where coaches such as Kevin Keatts (UNC-Wilmington) and Steve Forbes (East Tennessee State), as well as Dooley, will be coaching this weekend in the NCAA Tournament. What, Gregory was in such hot demand that he wasn't going to be available in a week? This hire was squarely inside the box. Then again, why do we think any of those other coaches would even be interested in USF? Let's face it, this is not a good job. Other than a season here and there, no one has been able to win at USF consistently. And the last guy, Orlando Antigua, turned out to be a complete disaster. The Bulls went 23-55 under his watch and now the NCAA is sniffing around to see if everything was done on the up-and-up. Now it's Coach Next — just the latest in a string of coaches searching for the key to unlocking the rusty door of success at the Sun Dome. So, can Gregory win at a place where no one seems to know how to win? While there won't be a flood on season tickets with this hire, Gregory does deserve a few minutes before we proclaim his is a good or bad move. That brings us back to Harlan. So far, he's 0-for-2 on basketball hires. Harlan had to turn to Antigua after his first hire, Steve Masiello, was discovered not to have a college degree as his resume stated. Two big swings and misses. It's about time Harlan got one right, wouldn't you say? As far as Gregory goes, we'll believe it when we see it. After all, this is USF men's basketball. http://www.tampabay.com/sports/basketball/college/jones-splashy-hoops-hire-nope-usf-goes-with-coach-next/2316559?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcgruber Posted March 14, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 257 Content Count: 2,408 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/24/2008 Share Posted March 14, 2017 100% spot on correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted March 14, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Vega said: Whenever a sports team hires a new coach, we all immediately ask the same question: Good or bad hire? That's the question we asked Tuesday when we learned USF was going to hire Brian Gregory to be its new men's basketball coach. Good or bad hire? The answer is not so cut-and-dried. Or exciting. Instead, the answer is "Who knows?" accompanied by a shrug and, maybe, a yawn. That's what USF basketball has come to. Frankly, this is what we've come to expect. Another wait-and-see hire that doesn't make much of a splash. Because of its sorry history, USF can't expect anyone to uncross his or her arms and give the Bulls the benefit of the doubt on anything related to men's hoops. Gregory might be a heck of a nice guy and really sharp when it comes to basketball. But this isn't the type of hire that excites whatever little fan base remains and entices skeptical recruits to one of the worst basketball programs we have ever seen. This is the man who is going to turn USF into a winner? This is the best USF could do? A 50-year-old whose career coaching highlight was getting to the second round of the NCAA Tournament eight years ago? Was there no one else? What about Joe Dooley, the coach who has Florida Gulf Coast in the big dance? What about former Alabama coach and Florida assistant Anthony Grant? There was intriguing talk about LeBron James' old high school coach. When you see what else is out there and how quickly USF moved on the hire, you wonder if Gregory was the only guy who returned USF's phone call. Surprising that USF athletic director Mark Harlan didn't jump in his car and use $10 worth of gas to drive over to Orlando where coaches such as Kevin Keatts (UNC-Wilmington) and Steve Forbes (East Tennessee State), as well as Dooley, will be coaching this weekend in the NCAA Tournament. What, Gregory was in such hot demand that he wasn't going to be available in a week? This hire was squarely inside the box. Then again, why do we think any of those other coaches would even be interested in USF? Let's face it, this is not a good job. Other than a season here and there, no one has been able to win at USF consistently. And the last guy, Orlando Antigua, turned out to be a complete disaster. The Bulls went 23-55 under his watch and now the NCAA is sniffing around to see if everything was done on the up-and-up. Now it's Coach Next — just the latest in a string of coaches searching for the key to unlocking the rusty door of success at the Sun Dome. So, can Gregory win at a place where no one seems to know how to win? While there won't be a flood on season tickets with this hire, Gregory does deserve a few minutes before we proclaim his is a good or bad move. That brings us back to Harlan. So far, he's 0-for-2 on basketball hires. Harlan had to turn to Antigua after his first hire, Steve Masiello, was discovered not to have a college degree as his resume stated. Two big swings and misses. It's about time Harlan got one right, wouldn't you say? As far as Gregory goes, we'll believe it when we see it. After all, this is USF men's basketball. http://www.tampabay.com/sports/basketball/college/jones-splashy-hoops-hire-nope-usf-goes-with-coach-next/2316559?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter My only observation is how do we not know the prospective coaches you mentioned were asked about their interest and the answer was "none." This program has been broken for so long and with the NCAA hammer about to drop, I can imagine many will say "no thanks." Edited March 14, 2017 by NewEnglandBull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANJAY Posted March 14, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 300 Content Count: 7,993 Reputation: 968 Days Won: 21 Joined: 10/31/2005 Share Posted March 14, 2017 4 hours ago, gmanbull93 said: 17 wins and we will rename Fowler Ave after him Can't. Since we're going to change it to Flowers Ave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANJAY Posted March 14, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 300 Content Count: 7,993 Reputation: 968 Days Won: 21 Joined: 10/31/2005 Share Posted March 14, 2017 So I don't follow college basketball closely enough to know if this is a good hire or not. Since we're talking USF basketball I assume it won't work out. Otherwise I have no opinion. Is that allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUpperHand Posted March 14, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 44 Content Count: 2,035 Reputation: 1,410 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/29/2007 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Has he ever left any players at the airport? If not, I'm sold. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azmodi Posted March 14, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 12 Content Count: 3,233 Reputation: 1,169 Days Won: 8 Joined: 10/17/2013 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Off topic here a second. I just read a report on Baylor's latest issue and saw one of the responses referring to a Baylor Recruitment letter. It said that, "99% of Baylor Football players go Pro in another sport." Another poster posted this: "Probation". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowers4Heisman Posted March 14, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 571 Content Count: 2,816 Reputation: 684 Days Won: 15 Joined: 12/08/2012 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Okay, here's how I'm interpreting it for myself. (1) Is USF better after this hire? Yes. We now have a new coach, and Bartow remains on staff. So, that is better than the day before. (2) From articles that I read, the new coach reads like an upstanding person. We won't be stepping on toes to win. So, that's a positive. (3) HOW MUCH IS USF PAYING for the 6-year contract? If it's cheap, then it is a good choice. If we are throwing out a cool million per season, then it's a questionable move on USF's part. (4) It all comes down to recruiting. He seems to be able to coach well on the floor with the upsets and being able to utilize the transfer talent to make a run during his last season at G-Tech. It doesn't matter who we bring in as coach as long as we can upgrade the talent by many, many folds. Can the new coach and his to-be-assembled staff recruit the State of Florida? --Unknown right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullinchinashop Posted March 14, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 12 Content Count: 116 Reputation: 45 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2013 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Vega said: As a head coach I would probably take Heath over Gregory. Heath had some good recruits. Big mistake firing him. That's what happens when the President who is an old lady gets to fire the coach. She said at one time he got fired because he played boring basketball. She did not understand he was trying to slow down the game, play tough defense and win close games. Back then we were playing Big East basketball and he was playing to the strength of his players. Let's fire Judy. 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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