michibull Posted October 22, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 957 Reputation: 648 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/29/2012 Share Posted October 22, 2021 So, it has taken a long time to really process what has happened to us. If we are honest with ourselves, since we were called up to the Big East, we have won nothing in Football and Basketball. We will never be Florida, Florida State or Miami. CFB is creating a haves and have nots right now and even the new B12 is in a very vulnerable spot. At this point we need to accept this. I think we should build a nice 25-30k OCS with an option to expand built into it (it’s important to have this for the students experience and alumni pride(almost ALL G5 schools have them), we are never going to capture fans of UF and FSU in Tampa now). Let’s have pride in our school and realize, we are where we deserve to be. If in the future we get called up, great; until then, let’s win our conference (whatever it is) as often as possible. I’m not happy either, but it’s where we are. I’m a Bull for life!! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted October 22, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, michibull said: So, it has taken a long time to really process what has happened to us. If we are honest with ourselves, since we were called up to the Big East, we have won nothing in Football and Basketball. We will never be Florida, Florida State or Miami. CFB is creating a haves and have nots right now and even the new B12 is in a very vulnerable spot. At this point we need to accept this. I think we should build a nice 25-30k OCS with an option to expand built into it (it’s important to have this for the students experience and alumni pride(almost ALL G5 schools have them), we are never going to capture fans of UF and FSU in Tampa now). Let’s have pride in our school and realize, we are where we deserve to be. If in the future we get called up, great; until then, let’s win our conference (whatever it is) as often as possible. I’m not happy either, but it’s where we are. I’m a Bull for life!! Spoken like a real USF fan! Well done sir!! Edited October 22, 2021 by NewEnglandBull 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted October 22, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) Bottom line it should not be who we play but the fact we get to watch USF play. Edited October 22, 2021 by NewEnglandBull 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michibull Posted October 22, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 957 Reputation: 648 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/29/2012 Share Posted October 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Local Bully said: We would be better off going indipendent. We could schedule P4 teams We were independent and decided being in CUSA was better, let’s not go backwards here. Also, with the new alliances forming in the ACC/B10/Pac12, I think it’s going to be harder to schedule than in years past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulloni Posted October 22, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 67 Content Count: 2,409 Reputation: 1,395 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/01/2015 Share Posted October 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, michibull said: So, it has taken a long time to really process what has happened to us. If we are honest with ourselves, since we were called up to the Big East, we have won nothing in Football and Basketball. We will never be Florida, Florida State or Miami. CFB is creating a haves and have nots right now and even the new B12 is in a very vulnerable spot. At this point we need to accept this. I think we should build a nice 25-30k OCS with an option to expand built into it (it’s important to have this for the students experience and alumni pride(almost ALL G5 schools have them), we are never going to capture fans of UF and FSU in Tampa now). Let’s have pride in our school and realize, we are where we deserve to be. If in the future we get called up, great; until then, let’s win our conference (whatever it is) as often as possible. I’m not happy either, but it’s where we are. I’m a Bull for life!! Kind of how I feel but I still think the stadium is gonna be 40-45k. 25-30k looks respectable spread out in bleacher seats. And in the good years 35-40k will be electric. Saw someone point to TCU as a team to look for that turned around their luck in a similar situation: In their last 34 years of the southwest conference they finished ranked 0 times. Only played in 3 bowl games and lost them all. So when those teams joined the Big 12 they were left behind. Joined the WAC and WON so they moved to CUSA within 5 years WON a bunch in CUSA so they moved to the MWC within 4 years WON a bunch in MWC so they moved to the BIG 12 within 7 years They we're in a worse spot than us and fell further than us. Invest in football and start winning and it will solve all our problems in regards to conference. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUpperHand Posted October 22, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 44 Content Count: 2,035 Reputation: 1,410 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/29/2007 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) Presenting the new AAC branding... Edited October 22, 2021 by TheUpperHand 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 22, 2021 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,650 Reputation: 10,879 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, michibull said: So, it has taken a long time to really process what has happened to us. If we are honest with ourselves, since we were called up to the Big East, we have won nothing in Football and Basketball. We will never be Florida, Florida State or Miami. CFB is creating a haves and have nots right now and even the new B12 is in a very vulnerable spot. At this point we need to accept this. I think we should build a nice 25-30k OCS with an option to expand built into it (it’s important to have this for the students experience and alumni pride(almost ALL G5 schools have them), we are never going to capture fans of UF and FSU in Tampa now). Let’s have pride in our school and realize, we are where we deserve to be. If in the future we get called up, great; until then, let’s win our conference (whatever it is) as often as possible. I’m not happy either, but it’s where we are. I’m a Bull for life!! Probably the most level headed, succinct take on all what's going and the approach that needs to be taken ..... we're also only four years away from double digit wins and top 25 finishes but people want to just ignore that because it doesn't fit in with their ******** about the last decade. It definitely sucks right now and I get the frustration but hopefully things improve enough that those fans planning to bail on the program reconsider. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloan1919 Posted October 22, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 13 Content Count: 198 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2009 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) This is the result of years of under investment. You “reap what you sow” and when things were good for us we chose to sow nothing. It’s only going to get worst with next years recruiting. Regarding recruiting, we will be competing for the higher end of FCS talent. We’ve drastically changed our value proposition from up and comer with the opportunity to slay giants to downward spiraling program with FCS level opponents. We need an MBA or a for-profit executive at the helm. These educators have proven to be incompetent. Look at what happened to the last guy when he got a little pressure. He folded like a cheap billfold. Edited October 22, 2021 by sloan1919 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grateful Dad Posted October 22, 2021 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 5,384 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/18/2005 Share Posted October 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Triple B said: we're also only four years away from double digit wins and top 25 finishes Wow. It truly seems much longer. Good perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperBullee Posted October 22, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 2 Content Count: 153 Reputation: 35 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/13/2015 Share Posted October 22, 2021 14 hours ago, E.T. said: The American will have a presence in four of the top 10, seven of the top 25 and 12 of the top 51 Nielsen media markets. Doesn’t mean a thing if those programs aren’t winning (MJ would like us to have a chat with the “man in the mirror”). ESPN is funneling everyone to buy MickyMouse+ or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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