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I think if the ACC only lost FSU and Clemson, picked up Pac2, USF and UCONN, it would be a much better and more valuable product than B12 (for basketball and football).

Man, I wish we could keep him indefinitely. I like everything about this man, has quickly become one of my all time favorite coaches. I know it’s only been a year, but the intangibles are there. As long as he is coaching our Bulls, we’ll be a good solid program!!

I have to say, seeing it in color, it looks a lot better. While not what I was hoping, I’ll be happy with it and to finally have a real home for our football team.

You’re spot on with this. There are multiple reasons that the NBA is terrible and the draft means nothing. One of the reasons are the one and done’s. Drafting a Jr or Sr has given the young man time to grow (physically, mentally and emotionally). You start to find the leaders, hard workers and busts. The NBA draft is pointless outside of the top 3 because they are just taking a chance on a young player. Back in the 80’s and 90’s at least a 1/3 of the first round had contributing players with careers, not anymore. These NBA executives are foolish with how they do it. The NFL is completely different.

Agreed, if a super league is created and there are 80 teams in 10 division, all of these conference clusters go away. I’m sure they will try and keep rivalries like Mich/OSU, UF/UGA, USC/UCLA together, but everything else is scrapped and rebooted (which the divisions will resemble conferences before all of the expansion started back pre 2006, haha).

You’re looking at it from the wrong point of view. This format would allow us to control our own destiny and push our administration to prioritize winning. Right now we could go undefeated every year and not be included in the CFP or expansion. This format, as long as we play well and win, we stay in the top tier.

Honestly, if we take an objective view, it’s what needs to happen. When it comes to basketball and football, colleges are the minor leagues for the NFL and NBA; time to treat it as such. I am a traditionalist, but even I can see that my childhood college football and basketball are dead, time to evolve. I like that the bottom 10 teams can be relegated, will still give us a chance to be elevated. My preference would be to have the UFL (ex USFL/XFL) grow to be the minor league for football (hold an amateur draft for the best HS and College players for UFL and NFL) every year and let the NCAA carry on with the real student athletes; but that won’t happen.

I have no inside info on this, but I highly doubt UL, Pitt and Syracuse would vote out, I don’t think they would have a home (I don’t even think NCST has a home, nobody even talk ls about them; other than trying to follow UNC). In addition, since ND is part time, do they count as a full vote? Like I said, I don’t know, just my worthless 2 cents, haha.

Haha, yeah, they say U of M up here. I personally don’t like them or their fans.

The only hang up for us is if the ACC wants western partnered for Cal/Stanford, then OSU/WSU/SDSU become real threats to us.

I agree. If it is ONLY FSU and Clemson, I think we stand a good chance of getting invited to the ACC, if we are invited along with OSU, WSU and a couple others the ACC would still be better than the B12; and if the ACC can renegotiate or find that there needs to be a balance of 4 power conferences and hold to it, it could be the absolute best scenario for us.

This would be the best case scenario for us. The ACC is going to have to expand by a handful of schools, and I think we would be near the top.

I actually agree with you. If conferences had stopped at 16 teams, then I think the B12 may regret one or two, but is 20-24 is the goal, they pick good ones. To add, if I were the B12, from the ACC I would avoid BC, NCST or WK and add USF and Tulane before some of them.

Exactly!! That is why I have never been huge fan of fancy suites. We are not an NFL/big business team. We need a sound quality stadium, with potential for expansion later. We just need bleacher seating for most areas, enough suites to help make it profitable and a quality foundation to build upon. At the end of the day, USF football will finally have a home of its own!!

I honestly don’t see the ACC going the way of the PAC12. Schools like BC, Pitt WF, Syracuse, NCST have nowhere to go, even the B12 won’t want them. I truly believe enough of them know this and will make “alliances” to keep a decent group of 6-8 schools together and rebuild with the best of the rest. It will end up being BIG/SEC as the big 2 and then B12/ACC as the next 2 then everyone else.

You’re right, we are not UNC and most schools are not. The NIT serves a dual purpose, 1) it gives seniors on the team one last chance to play and try to win something. 2) for teams that recruit and develop, it gives the younger kids more games and a feel for playing post season ball to season them for next year. Schools like UNC, Duke, Kentucky all have one and done’s, which means this tournament is pointless. Schools like Maryland, Ole Miss, Pitt don’t get that type of high talent one and done’s so this is foolish. The NIT is still a way to get your name out there and the “extra” week of not recruiting is not going to sway a recruit one way or another. I personally think it’s disrespectful to all of college basketball and the players to just “quit” on the season early.

Let’s take a step back for a moment. The BIG, SEC and B12 are all at 18 teams. Realistically they are gonna want 2 teams each and stop at 20 (will save on sharing revenue). If this is the case, we can assume Duke/UNC to BIG, FSU/Clem to SEC and probably Stanford/Cal or Mia/VA? That leaves BC, Louisville, NC St, Syracuse, Wake Forest, GT, Pitt, VT, SMU for sure. Add USF, Memphis, Tulane, UCONN, East Carolina, Temple; that is a solid 14 team conference. If they added Army/Navy and Oregon State, Wash St, SDSU, AF, there’s 20 (not to mention the 2 question mark ACC schools) and off we go.

I agree with you. The B12 have zero teams that anyone is interested in; they have quantity, not quality. IF the ACC loses FSU, Clem, UNC and Miami; VT, GT, NCST, Pitt, Louisville, Duke, Stanford, Cal, Syracuse are all better than what the B12 has except maybe Oklahoma St.

There are a lot of ways to stretch 300mil. First, leave it open at one end zone and reinvest in the rest of the seating areas, next leave the other end zone lower, so you can add to the second level of the grand stand side. Third, do not have the “mini” lower level bowl and build it like a traditional lower bowl. The way they chopped it around, makes it looks “lego” to me. This is just my opinion. Don’t get me wrong, I will be happy just to get something. I just love stadium designs and want us to have a quality stadium with character.

I’m sorry to say, but College sports are dead. When reflecting on my youth, I LOVED college sports more than professional sports because of the rivalries, regional battles, students doing extraordinary things and the fact you could see that a lot of the kids loved their schools and had pride in being apart of that. It was more down to earth and relatable. It has gotten so bad, my kids don’t even watch college sports anymore. It’s sad that we let it get this bad. I say “we” because we the people can refuse to give money and rating to these greedy conferences by not watching. Sorry, but it makes me sad.

Agreed, it feels very “MLS” and that is never good. At $300milli, this feels slightly better than UCF’s bounce house. I think they need to throw these plans in the trash and start over.

Great job @E.T.!!

I’m with you on this. Like most have said, it’s the B1G, SEC and everyone else. B12 will just get more money because they have all the leftovers. I just want USF in a respectable league and if that means the ACC and have BC, Wake, Syracuse, Louisville and NC State or any other leftovers, I’ll like that a lot more than the AAC. Other than USF, College sports are dead to me because of the B1G/SEC and NIL.

Honestly, this would be a way more interesting league than what the B12 has going. B12 is a dis functional array of leftovers from the Midwest/southwest. The ACC/AAC/P2/MWC has better markets and teams. I would laugh if this happens and the new ACC becomes more valuable that the monstrosity that is the B12, haha.

I don’t disagree with you. Stanford and Cal bring A LOT more money, cache and negotiating power than Cincy and UCF. My concern is that having to travel across country for the other 25 sports teams that are not football, it’s ridiculous. These are supposed to be student athletes and it’s the Olympic athletes that are getting the raw end of this deal and nobody is talking about it. Back to the topic at hand, haha. I think the ACC needs to stay in the east coast OR have separate west coast/east coast divisions, in which if I was the ACC, I wouldn’t add anyone east of the Mississippi and just add the P2/MWC teams (to balance the travel) which would be disastrous for USF.