Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[ArmyBull]

We have been at this for years.  For those wondering the how, why, and what reasons of ucf being all over the expansion news and not us... you simply have not been paying attention or you are being intentionally dense.  Number one, they have been winning (and winning when it matters) and we have not.  Number two, they have built facilities and we have not (not even going to go into the cultural and fan interaction benefits that an OCS would have done for us the past decade).  Number three, look at the donor base (embarrassing).  Number four, the coaching hires were just bad luck, but while we were firing coaches, ucf's coaches were leaving for better jobs.  Number four, attendance, again embarrassing and the reasons don't matter, because it is what it is and it has been what it is for a long time.  Number five, our administration could never produce the vision that was happening to the East and in all honesty, I blame them the most.  Judy, Woolard, Harlan, just bad decision after bad decision.  

[puc86]

20 minutes ago, mj796 said:

Super disappointed you don't like Puckles!!! I very much disagree that Iowa State, Baylor, and Kansas State have more fans or alumni than Cincinnati. Additionally, the endowments from such esteemed institutions such as West Virginia are embarrassingly low (and lower than USF's) which do not suggest material alumni support or "invested eyes". I did not say all of them, I said some of them. And I stand by that.

 I am politely indifferent to the nickname I just don't know that we are close enough to have pet names for one another as for the values of the programs unless you think things have drastically changes in two years the WSJ sees the valuations much the same way that I do. Facts unfortunately do not care about the feelings that drive most people's perceptions on what is or what will be. 

 

 

RANK	SCHOOL	REVENUES ($)	2018 VALUE ($)	2017 VALUE ($)
1	Texas	163,928,296	1,105,493,378	1,243,124,000
2	Ohio State	136,574,384	1,048,166,317	1,510,482,000
3	Alabama	140,831,439	1,009,903,620	930,001,000
4	Michigan	133,665,548	924,625,003	892,951,000
5	Notre Dame	118,740,294	913,401,562	856,938,000
6	Georgia	138,088,467	891,099,506	822,310,000
7	Oklahoma	126,416,865	885,558,053	1,001,967,000
8	Auburn	128,960,499	871,907,615	724,191,000
9	LSU	122,703,938	852,445,897	910,927,000
10	Tennessee	113,766,836	727,849,384	745,640,000
11	Florida	117,963,328	634,885,946	682,031,000
12	Texas A & M	101,114,415	540,883,003	522,863,000
13	Penn State	103,736,242	518,754,453	549,497,000
14	Wisconsin	88,713,614	474,552,451	439,379,000
15	Nebraska	93,990,274	471,585,561	507,679,000
16	Arkansas	99,599,352	462,727,317	456,153,000
17	South Carolina	101,297,652	460,753,199	484,757,000
18	Iowa	100,040,046	458,973,690	483,564,000
19	Washington	102,248,826	440,821,919	434,313,000
20	Michigan State	75,674,898	354,160,110	336,794,000
21	Oregon	81,953,780	348,920,032	368,529,000
22	Mississippi	78,736,032	341,560,846	330,503,000
23	Southern California	74,174,551	326,021,581	324,195,000
24	UCLA	64,845,985	302,006,607	314,436,000
25	Arizona State	70,375,000	300,826,000	315,412,000
26	Clemson	72,218,581	298,051,865	328,411,000
27	Florida State	94,597,591	289,776,745	385,339,000
28	Virginia Tech	65,851,157	278,315,358	269,883,000
29	Kansas State	68,787,446	277,146,330	277,203,000
30	Oklahoma State	63,909,363	270,953,731	285,293,000
31	Kentucky	66,574,141	270,898,513	287,589,000
32	Minnesota	73,576,081	269,798,883	260,264,000
33	Texas Tech	61,914,432	244,097,131	246,871,000
34	Stanford	68,340,862	232,872,852	225,479,000
35	Miss State	50,754,094	223,175,464	230,655,000
36	Georgia Tech	59,422,543	215,013,855	212,068,000
37	Utah	61,344,782	213,586,437	206,365,000
38	Colorado	72,425,832	208,242,792	203,533,000
39	Kansas	64,704,137	208,020,519	183,031,000
40	California Berkeley	61,566,987	198,881,848	220,017,000
41	Miami of Florida	47,820,654	193,474,341	254,502,000
42	Texas Christian	66,084,236	191,286,297	153,631,000
43	Iowa State	47,732,812	187,819,863	196,973,000
44	Indiana	61,193,975	181,988,355	178,168,000
45	Northwestern	58,545,202	179,637,659	163,315,000
46	North Carolina State	51,911,816	179,255,274	191,813,000
47	Louisville	58,011,677	175,765,264	160,899,000
48	Arizona	51,865,116	166,020,258	146,153,000
49	Illinois	52,784,303	156,797,041	143,318,000
50	North Carolina	50,024,180	155,246,919	147,179,000
51	Maryland	49,907,652	149,751,824	147,608,000
52	Wash State	51,125,157	142,466,371	142,052,000
53	Virginia	31,675,701	134,926,313	168,534,000
54	Purdue	55,132,293	134,004,805	135,021,000
55	Oregon State	48,212,470	127,555,982	144,713,000
56	Missouri	42,568,466	122,333,162	126,219,000
57	Syracuse	44,613,716	121,057,725	120,903,000
58	Pittsburgh	48,091,636	112,942,437	114,468,000
59	Baylor	50,465,954	105,708,897	103,591,000
60	BYU	32,704,695	93,302,419	98,924,000
61	Vanderbilt	36,915,107	81,494,539	73,991,000
62	Boston College	37,155,617	81,051,159	82,241,000
63	Boise State	27,172,138	78,823,574	77,981,000
64	Wake Forest	32,604,709	76,590,240	52,940,000
65	Central Florida	29,550,300	68,117,425	82,302,000
66	Duke	35,987,926	67,502,331	64,195,000
67	Rutgers	35,376,322	67,018,106	72,441,000
68	West Virginia	34,050,353	61,134,888	72,049,000
69	South Florida	24,026,107	58,188,736	70,189,000
70	Connecticut	32,695,983	56,065,312	59,776,000
71	UAB	28,840,003	49,527,523	N/A
72	Houston	22,613,559	41,385,725	41,386,000
73	Temple	25,992,000	40,668,751	40,669,000
74	Southern Methodist	21,848,464	36,047,017	36,047,000
75	Memphis	19,849,064	32,289,623	32,290,000
76	Wyoming	20,381,998	31,958,278	34,554,000
77	Cincinnati	21,140,792	30,230,291	30,230,000
78	Colorado State	20,588,154	29,387,009	30,221,000
79	East Carolina	18,270,690	28,407,940	28,408,000
80	San Diego State	19,148,065	27,715,793	27,716,000
81	Fresno State	18,658,904	26,465,123	29,325,000
82	North Texas	15,870,821	26,435,533	29,266,000
83	Hawaii	16,823,588	26,284,393	26,284,000
84	Florida International	16,435,347	23,269,107	24,145,000
85	UNLV	14,741,875	22,116,472	21,772,000
86	Ohio	14,749,167	22,081,346	22,302,000
87	Rice	15,429,983	21,452,498	21,453,000
88	Marshall	13,067,058	20,707,560	21,483,000
89	Akron	12,354,872	20,494,710	20,235,000
90	Middle Tennessee	13,572,649	19,288,110	19,322,000
91	Toledo	13,339,849	18,735,651	18,736,000
92	UTEP	12,808,393	18,701,471	19,344,000
93	Utah State	13,904,944	18,304,858	18,305,000
94	Nevada	14,023,542	17,477,801	17,478,000
95	Western Michigan	12,863,908	17,133,922	17,134,000
96	Western Kentucky	13,764,592	16,531,955	16,532,000
97	Buffalo	12,283,034	15,885,812	16,090,000
98	Northern Illinois	10,300,855	15,728,575	16,141,000
99	New Mexico	16,789,019	15,380,142	15,380,000
100	Troy	13,247,801	15,220,137	14,879,000

[El_Toro_86]

B10? ACC? come on guys.  If Oviedo makes it to the B12 we'll be left playing in a watered down AAC playing Temple Tulane and UAB on Wednesday nights.  That’s reality!  We had our chance and we blew it

[bullsmeanbusiness]

2 minutes ago, bullsfan27 said:

Acc is not taking us unless fsu or Miami leave. Our best bet is the big10 as we have the academic background most appealing to them and we are in a big market in a state the big10 has been wanting to get into for years. We just need to get the football team in the right direction along with men’s basketball  

I'm all for the B1G, especially if we ever decide to move the club hockey team up to D1.

[Rocky Style]

1 minute ago, ArmyBull said:

For those wondering the how, why, and what reasons of ucf being all over the expansion news and not us...

I'm not wondering.  I've watched all the aggressive moves they made, while we had our thumbs up our asses.

[El_Toro_86]

Just now, Rocky Style said:

I'm not wondering.  I've watched all the aggressive moves they made, while we had our thumbs up our asses.

Bingo!

[Rocky Style]

Just now, bullsmeanbusiness said:

I'm all for the B1G, especially if we ever decide to move the club hockey team up to D1.

That would be kind of great with TB being the hockey headquarters of the south.

[USFBULL_08]

1 minute ago, bullsmeanbusiness said:

I'm all for the B1G, especially if we ever decide to move the club hockey team up to D1.

We cant even spend the money for football. D1 hockey has less of a chance than the football team making the SEC.

Also, if the big 12 went to 12 teams. That would be 12 teams ahead of USF.

[El_Toro_86]

Tonight is interesting.  Our games are on at roughly the same time.  Oviedo playing in the bounce against Boise.  I’m sure it will be sold out and have a lot of energy.  We are playing on the road against a good opponent.  Tonight is a good chance to show we belong.  

[bowman1]

5 minutes ago, puc86 said:

 I am politely indifferent to the nickname I just don't know that we are close enough to have pet names for one another as for the values of the programs unless you think things have drastically changes in two years the WSJ sees the valuations much the same way that I do. Facts unfortunately do not care about the feelings that drive most people's perceptions on what is or what will be. 

 

 

RANK	SCHOOL	REVENUES ($)	2018 VALUE ($)	2017 VALUE ($)
1	Texas	163,928,296	1,105,493,378	1,243,124,000
2	Ohio State	136,574,384	1,048,166,317	1,510,482,000
3	Alabama	140,831,439	1,009,903,620	930,001,000
4	Michigan	133,665,548	924,625,003	892,951,000
5	Notre Dame	118,740,294	913,401,562	856,938,000
6	Georgia	138,088,467	891,099,506	822,310,000
7	Oklahoma	126,416,865	885,558,053	1,001,967,000
8	Auburn	128,960,499	871,907,615	724,191,000
9	LSU	122,703,938	852,445,897	910,927,000
10	Tennessee	113,766,836	727,849,384	745,640,000
11	Florida	117,963,328	634,885,946	682,031,000
12	Texas A & M	101,114,415	540,883,003	522,863,000
13	Penn State	103,736,242	518,754,453	549,497,000
14	Wisconsin	88,713,614	474,552,451	439,379,000
15	Nebraska	93,990,274	471,585,561	507,679,000
16	Arkansas	99,599,352	462,727,317	456,153,000
17	South Carolina	101,297,652	460,753,199	484,757,000
18	Iowa	100,040,046	458,973,690	483,564,000
19	Washington	102,248,826	440,821,919	434,313,000
20	Michigan State	75,674,898	354,160,110	336,794,000
21	Oregon	81,953,780	348,920,032	368,529,000
22	Mississippi	78,736,032	341,560,846	330,503,000
23	Southern California	74,174,551	326,021,581	324,195,000
24	UCLA	64,845,985	302,006,607	314,436,000
25	Arizona State	70,375,000	300,826,000	315,412,000
26	Clemson	72,218,581	298,051,865	328,411,000
27	Florida State	94,597,591	289,776,745	385,339,000
28	Virginia Tech	65,851,157	278,315,358	269,883,000
29	Kansas State	68,787,446	277,146,330	277,203,000
30	Oklahoma State	63,909,363	270,953,731	285,293,000
31	Kentucky	66,574,141	270,898,513	287,589,000
32	Minnesota	73,576,081	269,798,883	260,264,000
33	Texas Tech	61,914,432	244,097,131	246,871,000
34	Stanford	68,340,862	232,872,852	225,479,000
35	Miss State	50,754,094	223,175,464	230,655,000
36	Georgia Tech	59,422,543	215,013,855	212,068,000
37	Utah	61,344,782	213,586,437	206,365,000
38	Colorado	72,425,832	208,242,792	203,533,000
39	Kansas	64,704,137	208,020,519	183,031,000
40	California Berkeley	61,566,987	198,881,848	220,017,000
41	Miami of Florida	47,820,654	193,474,341	254,502,000
42	Texas Christian	66,084,236	191,286,297	153,631,000
43	Iowa State	47,732,812	187,819,863	196,973,000
44	Indiana	61,193,975	181,988,355	178,168,000
45	Northwestern	58,545,202	179,637,659	163,315,000
46	North Carolina State	51,911,816	179,255,274	191,813,000
47	Louisville	58,011,677	175,765,264	160,899,000
48	Arizona	51,865,116	166,020,258	146,153,000
49	Illinois	52,784,303	156,797,041	143,318,000
50	North Carolina	50,024,180	155,246,919	147,179,000
51	Maryland	49,907,652	149,751,824	147,608,000
52	Wash State	51,125,157	142,466,371	142,052,000
53	Virginia	31,675,701	134,926,313	168,534,000
54	Purdue	55,132,293	134,004,805	135,021,000
55	Oregon State	48,212,470	127,555,982	144,713,000
56	Missouri	42,568,466	122,333,162	126,219,000
57	Syracuse	44,613,716	121,057,725	120,903,000
58	Pittsburgh	48,091,636	112,942,437	114,468,000
59	Baylor	50,465,954	105,708,897	103,591,000
60	BYU	32,704,695	93,302,419	98,924,000
61	Vanderbilt	36,915,107	81,494,539	73,991,000
62	Boston College	37,155,617	81,051,159	82,241,000
63	Boise State	27,172,138	78,823,574	77,981,000
64	Wake Forest	32,604,709	76,590,240	52,940,000
65	Central Florida	29,550,300	68,117,425	82,302,000
66	Duke	35,987,926	67,502,331	64,195,000
67	Rutgers	35,376,322	67,018,106	72,441,000
68	West Virginia	34,050,353	61,134,888	72,049,000
69	South Florida	24,026,107	58,188,736	70,189,000
70	Connecticut	32,695,983	56,065,312	59,776,000
71	UAB	28,840,003	49,527,523	N/A
72	Houston	22,613,559	41,385,725	41,386,000
73	Temple	25,992,000	40,668,751	40,669,000
74	Southern Methodist	21,848,464	36,047,017	36,047,000
75	Memphis	19,849,064	32,289,623	32,290,000
76	Wyoming	20,381,998	31,958,278	34,554,000
77	Cincinnati	21,140,792	30,230,291	30,230,000
78	Colorado State	20,588,154	29,387,009	30,221,000
79	East Carolina	18,270,690	28,407,940	28,408,000
80	San Diego State	19,148,065	27,715,793	27,716,000
81	Fresno State	18,658,904	26,465,123	29,325,000
82	North Texas	15,870,821	26,435,533	29,266,000
83	Hawaii	16,823,588	26,284,393	26,284,000
84	Florida International	16,435,347	23,269,107	24,145,000
85	UNLV	14,741,875	22,116,472	21,772,000
86	Ohio	14,749,167	22,081,346	22,302,000
87	Rice	15,429,983	21,452,498	21,453,000
88	Marshall	13,067,058	20,707,560	21,483,000
89	Akron	12,354,872	20,494,710	20,235,000
90	Middle Tennessee	13,572,649	19,288,110	19,322,000
91	Toledo	13,339,849	18,735,651	18,736,000
92	UTEP	12,808,393	18,701,471	19,344,000
93	Utah State	13,904,944	18,304,858	18,305,000
94	Nevada	14,023,542	17,477,801	17,478,000
95	Western Michigan	12,863,908	17,133,922	17,134,000
96	Western Kentucky	13,764,592	16,531,955	16,532,000
97	Buffalo	12,283,034	15,885,812	16,090,000
98	Northern Illinois	10,300,855	15,728,575	16,141,000
99	New Mexico	16,789,019	15,380,142	15,380,000
100	Troy	13,247,801	15,220,137	14,879,000

This is a rather interesting list seeing as the first AAC team checks in at 65

Also, with the exception of Louisville at 47, all of our former Big East Mates are grouped near us in the 57-77 range - maybe the Big East was not as big as we thought it was