El_Toro_86 Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,660 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, puc86 said: Where exactly have they made those decisions and who exactly are these people? Multiple credible media outlets reporting we are not among final 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dclenden Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 12 Content Count: 254 Reputation: 114 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/11/2015 Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, puc86 said: Where exactly have they made those decisions and who exactly are these people? +1 my point. I have never seen a bunch of more pathetic, meek, apologetic group of twinks in my life. Send me your addresses and I’ll quick shipping you apologists a UCF jersey. pathetic 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 minute ago, El_Toro_86 said: Multiple credible media outlets reporting we are not among final 4 So no one and nowhere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBULL_08 Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 48 Content Count: 2,340 Reputation: 658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2009 Share Posted September 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, ArmyBull said: We have been at this for years. For those wondering the how, why, and what reasons of ucf being all over the expansion news and not us... you simply have not been paying attention or you are being intentionally dense. Number one, they have been winning (and winning when it matters) and we have not. Number two, they have built facilities and we have not (not even going to go into the cultural and fan interaction benefits that an OCS would have done for us the past decade). Number three, look at the donor base (embarrassing). Number four, the coaching hires were just bad luck, but while we were firing coaches, ucf's coaches were leaving for better jobs. Number four, attendance, again embarrassing and the reasons don't matter, because it is what it is and it has been what it is for a long time. Number five, our administration could never produce the vision that was happening to the East and in all honesty, I blame them the most. Judy, Woolard, Harlan, just bad decision after bad decision. Dense, trolling or homerism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footnfan1 Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 88 Content Count: 3,462 Reputation: 566 Days Won: 6 Joined: 10/14/2010 Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 hours ago, dclenden said: Thanks for the serious reply B- is there then objective evidence of UCF generating more ‘money and TV viewership’ or is conjecture? From the AAC website University of Central Florida http://cafidatabase.knightcommission.org/sites/default/files/styles/institution_logo/public/132903.png?itok=V975gYUc SUBDIVISION: FBS CONFERENCE: AAC* # OF TEAMS: 16 # OF ATHLETES: 479 TOTAL ATHLETIC REVENUES [i] 2014 2019 Change from 2014-2019 Institution $49,764,152 $69,121,887 39% FBS Median $55,448,564 $70,406,613 27% TOTAL ATHLETIC EXPENSES [i] 2014 2019 Change from 2014-2019 Institution $45,327,168 $67,916,343 50% FBS Median $52,460,204 $70,797,326 35% University of South Florida http://cafidatabase.knightcommission.org/sites/default/files/styles/institution_logo/public/137351.png?itok=T95_9VGu SUBDIVISION: FBS CONFERENCE: AAC* # OF TEAMS: 18 # OF ATHLETES: 463 TOTAL ATHLETIC REVENUES [i] 2014 2019 Change from 2014-2019 Institution $48,383,928 $55,045,769 14% FBS Median $55,448,564 $70,406,613 27% TOTAL ATHLETIC EXPENSES [i] 2014 2019 Change from 2014-2019 Institution $46,829,647 $53,569,756 14% FBS Median $52,460,204 $70,797,326 35% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footnfan1 Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 88 Content Count: 3,462 Reputation: 566 Days Won: 6 Joined: 10/14/2010 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Other ranking data: Rankings | Highest grossing college sports programs - Most revenue college sports | Conference | American Athletic Conference Discover the top colleges of 2022 ranked by College Raptor to help you find the right college. Click here to explore our rankings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dclenden Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 12 Content Count: 254 Reputation: 114 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/11/2015 Share Posted September 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, footnfan1 said: From the AAC website University of Central Florida http://cafidatabase.knightcommission.org/sites/default/files/styles/institution_logo/public/132903.png?itok=V975gYUc SUBDIVISION: FBS CONFERENCE: AAC* # OF TEAMS: 16 # OF ATHLETES: 479 TOTAL ATHLETIC REVENUES [i] 2014 2019 Change from 2014-2019 Institution $49,764,152 $69,121,887 39% FBS Median $55,448,564 $70,406,613 27% TOTAL ATHLETIC EXPENSES [i] 2014 2019 Change from 2014-2019 Institution $45,327,168 $67,916,343 50% FBS Median $52,460,204 $70,797,326 35% University of South Florida http://cafidatabase.knightcommission.org/sites/default/files/styles/institution_logo/public/137351.png?itok=T95_9VGu SUBDIVISION: FBS CONFERENCE: AAC* # OF TEAMS: 18 # OF ATHLETES: 463 TOTAL ATHLETIC REVENUES [i] 2014 2019 Change from 2014-2019 Institution $48,383,928 $55,045,769 14% FBS Median $55,448,564 $70,406,613 27% TOTAL ATHLETIC EXPENSES [i] 2014 2019 Change from 2014-2019 Institution $46,829,647 $53,569,756 14% FBS Median $52,460,204 $70,797,326 35% Thanks Foot for the serious reply minus the snideness this board has developed a reputation for. I can’t imagine any program not seeing a surge in revenue in years their football team has successes. I would be more interested in seeing program numbers in years teams are lackluster. This would be a better metric for long term success for inviting a team into a conference in my mind considering there is only one winner of it all each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBULL_08 Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 48 Content Count: 2,340 Reputation: 658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2009 Share Posted September 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, dclenden said: Thanks Foot for the serious reply minus the snideness this board has developed a reputation for. I can’t imagine any program not seeing a surge in revenue in years their football team has successes. I would be more interested in seeing program numbers in years teams are lackluster. This would be a better metric for long term success for inviting a team into a conference in my mind considering there is only one winner of it all each year. You should dig those numbers up for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michibull Posted September 3, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 952 Reputation: 645 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/29/2012 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, dclenden said: Thanks Foot for the serious reply minus the snideness this board has developed a reputation for. I can’t imagine any program not seeing a surge in revenue in years their football team has successes. I would be more interested in seeing program numbers in years teams are lackluster. This would be a better metric for long term success for inviting a team into a conference in my mind considering there is only one winner of it all each year. I agree, but I think perception is reality today. B12 will be looking for teams that will help them keep their value up in the short term for contract reasons. The view of 10-50 years from now means nothing, it’s all about survival at the moment. Unfortunately UCF is at the right spot at the right time. As was said before, once we got into the Big East, we should have invested big into football with the IPF and OCS, but the Admin sat on their hands thinking their job was done and we are being punished for it. In terms of further expansion, the opportunities for a lower conference team jumping up is over; it’s headed to 4 power conferences and that’s it. I would bet on 4 - 16 team conferences and it won’t include USF or UCF; Florida, FSU and Miami will ensure that. It was a good ride while it lasted, but if we don’t make it to the B12, we need to focus on basketball. Edited September 3, 2021 by michibull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footnfan1 Posted September 3, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 88 Content Count: 3,462 Reputation: 566 Days Won: 6 Joined: 10/14/2010 Share Posted September 3, 2021 36 minutes ago, dclenden said: Thanks Foot for the serious reply minus the snideness this board has developed a reputation for. I can’t imagine any program not seeing a surge in revenue in years their football team has successes. I would be more interested in seeing program numbers in years teams are lackluster. This would be a better metric for long term success for inviting a team into a conference in my mind considering there is only one winner of it all each year. Thanks, I am not bright enough or a witty enough writer ti be snide, Trip still thinks that I am a sleeper cell. My research is over for the night. I get up at 4:45 each day, get our 3 Dalmatians up, get them out, feed them, have some play time, put them back to bed so I can attend a 6:00 Cross fit class ( at stinking 62!), home by 7:10, get them back up, out for another walk, back home, shower, to work to run a healthcare business and everything Covid Variant, by 9:00. LIkr she said in Blazing Saddkes, "I'm so tired"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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