Brad Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,007 Reputation: 10,812 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted September 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, dclenden said: Thanks for the serious reply B- is there then objective evidence of UCF generating more ‘money and TV viewership’ or is conjecture? Smoke and mirrors, or outright lies such as in their "national championship"? Really, came to prominence as a joke to everyone else. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted September 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, jg233 said: USF runs its athletics like an A-sun school, might as well be one The same way the AAC hoped to be confused with the ACC it starts with an A and I doubt many would notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dclenden Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 12 Content Count: 254 Reputation: 114 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/11/2015 Share Posted September 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, bulloni said: they probably have over the last couple years just because a result of being good is more high profile games. Bu do the powers that be just judge the last 3 years? Or the last 15? Probably somewhere in between. One thing I don't understand is the love affair with Cincy. Sure they have football success, but in 2019 they won 10 games and we won 4 and we averaged basically the same in attendance. Would assume conferences want a team that proves it makes money even when it sucks. Michael Kelly is a smart guy though, I'm assuming this is part of the pitch Sounds to me that the body of this ‘UCF football superiority’ over USF’ is based largely on conjecture and not hard data. I’m not saying UCF doesn’t get selected over USF by the B12, just for every true data point that UCF>USF there are 200 pieces of conjecture. Perhaps there is more of a ‘USF inferiority complex’ than a UCF superiority complex- we’ve been bad recently thus who could possibly want the USF product in their P5 portfolio. I’ve yet to see hard data that UCF has a larger fan base, athletic budget or other that would substantially tip a P5 suitor’s scale to pick UCF>USF. Admittedly, I’m sure some hard data exists, I just haven’t seen it functionally hit this message board. I’ll remain open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,545 Reputation: 10,821 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Dave_Glaser said: I'll tell you one thing, if UCF moves and somehow we don't, I wouldn't schedule them ever again in any sport. Done with that War on I-4 nonsense. That will be one of the huge silver linings if things play out this way .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,007 Reputation: 10,812 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted September 2, 2021 ^^^ Perhaps put that stupid trophy around some selected necks and take them swimming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,007 Reputation: 10,812 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Thank you Seth **** Fraschilla. He is winging it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,545 Reputation: 10,821 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted September 2, 2021 39 minutes ago, dclenden said: Having witnessed the replies to this expansion thread for some time, a serious question constantly comes to my mind. Notwithstanding the ‘OCS’ and a recent ‘winning percentage’, what specifically are people referencing when they claim that UCF has ‘surpassed’ the USF football program in attractiveness to a P5 suitor? While I recognize our recent failures on the field, what exactly distinguishes UCF over USF as being a potentially better candidate for P5 expansion? I see people write this endlessly on this board, but in truth, I’ve missed the specifics? Is it season ticket holders? An actual, objectively larger and measurable fan base? An OCS? Athletic budget? Team revenues? Can anyone offer specifics, or are there any any I stead people are relying on recent perception based on recent winning percentage. Serious question. Nobody can truthfully answer your excellent questions until UCF is chosen, we're not, and their new conference explains why they were chosen. Up until then, it's all ******* up a rope ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,545 Reputation: 10,821 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted September 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, puc86 said: Puckles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFRaider Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,704 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/09/2019 Share Posted September 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Brad said: Thank you Seth **** Fraschilla. He is winging it. Why would he be shocked if USF men’s basketball is left out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted September 2, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Triple B said: That’s because you typically like bad things 1 minute ago, USFRaider said: Why would he be shocked if USF men’s basketball is left out? Because kids grow up dreaming of being bulls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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