Jim Leavitt Factor....

[Skingraft]

I'd love to have his fire back... I do remember saying it just never seemed like he could get us over the hump

[NewEnglandBull]

Going to be some sad and disappointed people when Jimbo does not even get a sniff at an interview 

Edited December 2, 2019 by NewEnglandBull

[Brad]

4 minutes ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said:

He's good at getting a settlement after assaulting a student and interfering with the investigation.

Except you don't know about the interference.   It is hard to coach players without allegedly interfering with an alleged investigation.  Had any coach at any university been in any such investigation, the AD would have had balls enough to instruct the coach on what would be terminable offenses.  Woolard did not.  His puppet masters AND his envy of Leavitt gave him and Gonzalez the window to can him.   At the time, it made sense to them and few others.  We had no appreciation for what Leavitt did.  Some today still do not.  Pitiful.

[George_Bullnard_Shaw]

Just now, NewEnglandBull said:

Going to be some sad and disappointed people when Jimbo is not even getting a sniff at an interview 

They'll get choked up.

Just now, Brad said:

Except you don't know about the interference.   It is hard to coach players without allegedly interfering with an alleged investigation.  Had any coach at any university been in any such investigation, the AD would have had balls enough to instruct the coach on what would be terminable offenses.  Woolard did not.  His puppet masters AND his envy of Leavitt gave him and Gonzalez the window to can him.   At the time, it made sense.  We had no appreciation for what Leavitt did.  Some today still do not.  Pitiful.

If you say so.

The love for this mediocre coach and what he did is astounding.

But we all choose our hills to die on.

[Bull Dozer]

1 minute ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said:

They'll get choked up.

It's always tough when reality smacks you in the face 

[USFRaider]

1 minute ago, MSBulls said:

Agree to disagree - That's fine. The guy kept winning in higher leagues with less talent, time, and facilties. No problem disagreeing. Just crazy to say he wasn't successful with us and hasn't since. 

It all depends on how you measure success.  If you measure success by conference championships, then he was a failure.  If you measure success, by good but not great seasons, head-scratching losses, mid-season swoons, and mid-level bowl games, then he was a rousing success. 

 

 I have said it a thousand times, but one day a coach is going to come in here and win conference championships and New Years Day Bowl games and make everyone forget about Jim Leavitt.  USF has yet to ever employ a great coach.  Hopefully Michael Kelly brings that guy in with this coaching search.

[Brad]

10 minutes ago, goingbackbull said:

If we get the practice facility up and running, Jim would lead us to championships.  We were outclassed by every team in our conference while Jim was here,

Was that sarcasm?  Seems like it when bringing up the practice facility.

[SpeedBull]

7 minutes ago, USFRaider said:

Great, he built the program and he will always be remembered for that.  But he is a mediocre head coach and is a coordinator at best.  He only SEEMS like this legendary Lombardi/Bear Bryant type figure because of the garbage of Holtz and Strong to compare it to.  If 8-5 seasons are your measuring stick of success, then great, he is the guy for you.  But if you want conference championships, and New Years Day Bowl games, then its time to bring in someone who can help fill our dust-collecting trophy case.

OK...we will wait for your suggestion for the hire. You think there are ace top flight prospects that are beating down our doors? There are loads of guys that are going to bring us conference championships?

 

[hightechbull]

19 minutes ago, Bull Daly said:

More importantly, CJL got a raw deal by USF. He never had the chance to go out on his own terms. I think USF owes him another opportunity to make things right. If he fails on the field so be it. I’m sure he would accept that a heck of lot better than the way USF fired him last time 

He was fired for lying to the administration and trying to cover up the incident with the player.  He actually tampered with the witnesses.  If that incident became a criminal investigation, Leavitt would have faced felony charges for tampering with the witnesses.  

He never had a wining conference record in any conference.   No other school has offered him a head coaching position since the incident.  He is a good assistant coach, but he is not head coach material anymore.  

This whole idea of Leavitt coming back to USF is DOA and is a stupid fantasy.

[Brad]

2 minutes ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said:

They'll get choked up.

If you say so.

The love for this mediocre coach and what he did is astounding.

But we all choose our hills to die on.

It won't phase me if he is not interviewed.  I wouldn't expect him to be.  But then again, I've been a USF fan since 1979.