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4 minutes ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said:

We were a bad team talent wise but no excuse for McNeese  and the execrable records his first two years. Taggart willfully imposed a system that would never work on his athletes. A great coach adjusts to what his players can do.  A bad coach tries to force them into a mold they will never fit.

Taggart can recruit, motivate and sell himself but I don't see the gameday ability. I will always stand by my opinion of him being a great fit for a CEO type coach who promotes, recruits and lets better people do the Xs and Os.

 

I think this is a feeling most reasonable fans can get behind. USF and CWT both grew together under his era, to pretend he didn’t get at least as much from us during his stint is just disingenuous. I appreciate the strides he made during his tenure but he would have had to stay a while longer and grow his 1.5 years of success before all the sins of his beginning could be forgotten.

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Funny how many people badmouth the guy who brought us back to respectability. it wasn't anything more then to point out how ridiculous fan expectations are anywhere you go.   BTW we fin

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I think there are a lot of sensitive people on this board.  Rub some dirt on it, look forward to USF's upcoming season, and move on with your life.

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The man literally rebuilt 2 down in the dumps programs to winner but he is a bad coach. I am laughing so hard over here. 

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2 minutes ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said:

We were a bad team talent wise but no excuse for McNeese  and the execrable records his first two years. Taggart willfully imposed a system that would never work on his athletes. A great coach adjusts to what his players can do.  A bad coach tries to force them into a mold they will never fit.

Taggart can recruit, motivate and sell himself but I don't see the gameday ability. I will always stand by my opinion of him being a great fit for a CEO type coach who promotes, recruits and lets better people do the Xs and Os.

 

 

He was a fairly new coach who found success running a certain system.  When he came here, he went with what worked from past experience.  I fault him for not adapting sooner but I can''t blame him for going with what got him success in the first place.  With the talent he has at Florida State, he could probably go back to the power run game and still have success.   

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He was a fairly new coach who found success running a certain system.  When he came here, he went with what worked from past experience.  I fault him for not adapting sooner but I can''t blame him for going with what got him success in the first place.  With the talent he has at Florida State, he could probably go back to the power run game and still have success.   

His team is set up for his old style and he would probably find more success initially if he went back to it. Unfortunately he now has a completely different situation as last time and he is almost forced to go Gulf Coast when his Stanford system would afford him more immediate success.

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40 minutes ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said:

We were a bad team talent wise but no excuse for McNeese  and the execrable records his first two years. Taggart willfully imposed a system that would never work on his athletes. A great coach adjusts to what his players can do.  A bad coach tries to force them into a mold they will never fit.

Taggart can recruit, motivate and sell himself but I don't see the gameday ability. I will always stand by my opinion of him being a great fit for a CEO type coach who promotes, recruits and lets better people do the Xs and Os.

 

I think I may have been unfair about a lot of offensive/Gilbert discussions and judgements from last season, but is that not what happened during some of 2017? 

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Clearly no one remembers that we did not have a talent issue in CWTs first 2 years... the issue was that the team didn't know how to win. He fixed that! He also made them practice in the humidity so that they would know how to play in humid conditions! He's a genius!

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21 minutes ago, OcalaBull2 said:

I think I may have been unfair about a lot of offensive/Gilbert discussions and judgements from last season, but is that not what happened during some of 2017? 

Gilbert held Q back a bit last year, I agree... maybe he's a bad coach, but, it's also about complementary football. The offense stayed on the field longer, gave the defense time to rest, giving them a better chance. Could the offense have blown the doors off and scored like 2016? Maybe, but, the 2016 defense was a steaming turd. I am giving the staff the benefit of the doubt here, maybe that had nothing to do with the way the offense was handled last year, but, if that was the goal, it's actually very smart coaching that puts the TEAM in the best position to win. May not be flashy.

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Clearly no one remembers that we did not have a talent issue in CWTs first 2 years... the issue was that the team didn't know how to win. He fixed that! He also made them practice in the humidity so that they would know how to play in humid conditions! He's a genius!

 

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If you want comments or clicks:

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CWT is not a good coach, he is a good recruiter.  As a HD he has more lost (50) than wins  (47) that's less than .500

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17 pages of all the lame, usual excuses why it wasn't CWT that ultimately fueled the success here and no one mentioned (that I saw) the REAL reason .... Harlan having to give him the offense to install to turn the corner.

The problem I've got with Taggart's quote was the weird wording about a plan after we got to #2. Pretty sure the plan was to keep winning It wasn't the lack of a plan, it was the execution of the plan. Maybe what he was trying to say was the failure to build off that #2 ranking .....

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