Taggart SBNation Comment on USF

[puc86]

If xCWT’s record is only situationaly mediocre how was UCF’s situation better for Frost than USF’s was better for Tags? Frost came into a UCF team that was 0-12 he then went 6-7 and 13-0. CWT came into a USF team that was 3-9 and he then went 2-10 and 4-8 before beginning to right the ship. Those first two years did not have to be so tough, xCWT made conscious horrible decisions during the beginning of his tenure that contributed to his failure at least as much as his predecessor did.

[CousinRicky]

1 hour ago, USFBulls727 said:

I agree with this, but of course, CWT deserves credit for recruiting the likes of QF, MM, and bringing in Kinnan, and getting things turned around here. He may not have had sustained success, but we were WAY better off when he left than when he arrived, and did the same at WKU. Plus, he's done well enough to land a pretty prestigious job, and make a whole lot of $$$.

Not entirely sure it was his decision.  This may have been suggested strongly to him.  Don't forget **** Tomey was brought in as well around that same time. I'm thinking it may have been before Kinnan and that he had something to do with Kinnan coming on the scene.

[OcalaBull2]

15 minutes ago, puc86 said:

If xCWT’s record is only situationaly mediocre how was UCF’s situation better for Frost than USF’s was better for Tags? Frost came into a UCF team that was 0-12 he then went 6-7 and 13-0. CWT came into a USF team that was 3-9 and he then went 2-10 and 4-8 before Flowers, Mack, Adams began to right the ship. Those first two years did not have to be so tough, xCWT made conscious horrible decisions during the beginning of his tenure that contributed to his failure at least as much as his predecessor did.

FIFY

[Bull Dozer]

20 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

Not entirely sure it was his decision.  This may have been suggested strongly to him.  Don't forget **** Tomey was brought in as well around that same time. I'm thinking it may have been before Kinnan and that he had something to do with Kinnan coming on the scene.

Not unless somebody has a flux capacitor and a time machine....  Tomey was hired in February, Kinnan joined the staff a couple months before in December.  

 

https://manateehsnews.wordpress.com/2014/12/17/former-head-football-coach-joe-kinnan-expected-to-coach-at-usf/

Edited August 23, 2018 by Bull Dozer

[CousinRicky]

3 minutes ago, Bull Dozer said:

Not unless somebody has a flux capacitor and a time machine....  Tomey was hired in February, Kinnan joined the staff a couple months before in December.  

Knew they were close hires. Thought Tomey was first.

[puc86]

4 minutes ago, OcalaBull2 said:

FIFY

If someone could explain how Lane Kiffin goes 11-3 in his first year at a school that went 3-9 for three straight years, yet xCWT isn’t responsible for his first two years following one season of that record I would be more than happy to concede that xCWT is as responsible as the talent for righting the ship. Frost and Kiffin came into situations as bad or worse than Tags came into yet for some reason things got better and not worse immediately after they took over, odd.

[Bullrush33]

1 hour ago, puc86 said:

How was the guy that couldn’t beat the guy we had the next best thing? Skippy was destined for failure, he looked like a giant man baby and would have only appeared to be a worse fit if he had inherited his dad’s lisp.

He had a pretty good run one year beating West Virginia and Virginia Tech. Multiple conference championships and he also defeated a pretty good Boise team in a bowl game. So it seemed on paper there was something there.

[George_Bullnard_Shaw]

2 minutes ago, puc86 said:

If someone could explain how Lane Kiffin goes 11-3 in his first year at a school that went 3-9 for three straight years, yet xCWT isn’t responsible for his first two years following one season of that record I would be more than happy to concede that xCWT is as responsible as the talent for righting the ship. Frost and Kiffin came into situations as bad or worse than Tags came into yet for some reason things got better and not worse immediately after they took over, odd.

We were a bad team talent wise but no excuse for McNeese  and the execrable records his first two years. Taggart willfully imposed a system that would never work on his athletes. A great coach adjusts to what his players can do.  A bad coach tries to force them into a mold they will never fit.

Taggart can recruit, motivate and sell himself but I don't see the gameday ability. I will always stand by my opinion of him being a great fit for a CEO type coach who promotes, recruits and lets better people do the Xs and Os.

 

[BayIslandBull]

Taggart was atrocious the first 2 years. His pre-snap shifting offense was a joke.

[puc86]

2 minutes ago, BayIslandBull said:

Taggart was atrocious the first 2 years. His pre-snap shifting offense was a joke.

You have to love trickery that at best does nothing and at worst seems to trick you offense into pre-snap penalties.