USF to present findings of on-campus stadium study

[SouthFLBully]

1 minute ago, GaUSFBull said:

First of all, we haven't decided against an OCS.  Remember that stuff about the feasibility study, rendering, etc. at the beginning of the thread?  None of that stuff would have happened if USF was against having an OCS.

Second, I'm not familiar with your posting as much, so maybe, if your quote above is truly correct, you can come up with some sort of link to an article, or source, that shows that not having an OCS is a definitive strike against us.  I'm crossing my fingers you have such evidence in your possession.  Please don't let me down.

Man you are dense. You are arguing that we don't need an OCS I'm telling you that in my opinion it benefits us greatly, when pitching our school to other conferences. I'm not saying USF is not building one, we all know we are going through the process, I'm arguing against your point of view. 

Secondly I could ask you to provide evidence that having an OCS isn't a prerequisite to getting an invite as well. I can garantee you can't provide any evidence either. It's all speculation. Do you think the P5 is going to fault us for building an OCS? Hell no. How could it be anything other than beneficial to have one? 

Let me ask you a question: What do you suggest we do between now and the next conference alignment? Cross our fingers and pray that our Athletics will be on the uptick when the chairs get shuffled again? 

 

[thatboykane]

34 minutes ago, GaUSFBull said:

Ok, thanks for your honest answer.  So if it doesn't pay us an immediate dividend, such as getting into a P5 conference, why do we need to get it done RIGHT NOW?  

Inflation of construction materials. 

[Azmodi]

1 minute ago, thatboykane said:

Inflation of construction materials. 

Don't forget rising labor costs.

[GaUSFBull]

Just now, SouthFLBully said:

Man you are dense. 

Too bad you didn't see the recommended post, apparently: 

Posted by Brad, 1 hour ago

No one has the time to moderate the personal attacks.  Stay on topic and don't make the debate a trade of insults. 

Please heed.

Recommended by Brad

1 minute ago, SouthFLBully said:

You are arguing that we don't need an OCS I'm telling you that in my opinion it benefits us greatly, when pitching our school to other conferences. I'm not saying USF is not building one, we all know we are going through the process, I'm arguing against your point of view. 

Your direct words are "By deciding against an OCS we are giving them another reason to shut the door on us."  Do you think I am USF?  If not, maybe you should consider the way you communicate before you start name-calling.  I have no power to decide against an OCS, myself.  Communication is key to any discussion.

8 minutes ago, SouthFLBully said:

 How could it be anything other than beneficial to have one? 

There's just no evidence to suggest it's anything other than something to talk about regarding realignment.  You get one now if it gets you in.  If it's not necessary, you wait until the time is right. Trust me, the bulldozers and cranes would already be there if it were a prerequisite.  

10 minutes ago, SouthFLBully said:

Let me ask you a question: What do you suggest we do between now and the next conference alignment? Cross our fingers and pray that our Athletics will be on the uptick when the chairs get shuffled again? 

It's at least 7 years away, and may not even happen at all - nothing guaranteed.  In the meantime, I'd love to see us at least get a fund started for the OCS, if it's so critically important to our survival.  Also would love to see our fanbase and attendance grow where we actually are right now.  That's what it's going to take.  

[USFBULL_08]

We are behind on facilities, period. An IPF and a stadium are required for us to keep up with the rest of college football.

Pitt - had a stadium for about 75 years.

Miami - had the orange bowl(and historic players and coaches)

Everyone else is small time.

Edited August 9, 2017 by USFBULL_08

[Sellular1]

USF Needs Their Own Info Commercial Stadium

 

Let’s face GaUSFBull doesn't know what he's talking about.  An on-campus stadium has been talked about for the South Florida Bulls for quite some time now. But with the hire of Charlie Strong has talk just gotten hotter?

In Strong’s introductory press conference he told the crowd that he had already been in discussion with USF president Judy Genshaft about an on campus stadium and the crowd exploded with applause. Now an on-campus stadium has been a hot topic for the past week.

Early in the 2016 year the Museum of Science and Industry announced they would be relocating to downtown Tampa. That initially sparked USF football fans to urge the school to buy that land to build an on-campus stadium.

 

 

Of course there has been much debate on whether USF needs an on-campus stadium or not. So let’s get into it.

Disadvantages Of Having An On-Campus Stadium

A big selling point for the Bulls is the chance for players to play in a NFL stadium. With tough recruiting that is definitely something USF could use to their advantage. With an on-campus stadium the school would no longer have Raymond James Stadium as a recruiting tactic.

There is also the maintenance and upkeep of an on-campus stadium. Right now USF doesn’t have to worry about since the Tampa Sports Authority manages Raymond James Stadium. But really that might be a small sacrifice to the benefits of having an on-campus stadium.

Advantages Of Having An On-Campus Stadium

Just as Raymond James Stadium is a recruiting selling point, it is also a downfall. A home game for Bulls players involves always being bused to and from their games. Ray Jay is also the home of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, which means USF is not truly playing in a home stadium of their own. Despite having a field painted in the USF logo, the rest of the stadium is decked out in Buccaneers attire. It could be said that USF games are one big giant info commercial for the Bucs.

“I feel like once you get a stadium on campus it’s (the players) home, it’s what they defend, it’s their house and that’s going to be critical and that’s going to happen,” Strong said during his introductory press conference.

Photo: USF Bulls

Of course attendance has been an issue for USF for the past few seasons. Even with a 10-2, possibly 11-2, season attendance has been a struggle. Of course more than one 10-2 season is going to be needed to rebuild the low point the program had hit, but with attendance averaging 27,887 per game this season many say an on-campus stadium would help with that issue. Currently students have the ability to ride a bus from USF campus to Raymond James Stadium. But doesn’t it seem more fun to be able to drink in the frat houses and walk to the football game whether than worrying about a designated driver or catching the bus?

Even with attendance not being an issue, an on-campus stadium is something that sets the atmosphere at college football games apart from any other sport. The Bulls may one day grow into one of the top programs in the state of Florida, but the Bulls need their own home to make it a program that draws Tampa Bay football fans to them to continue their growth.

Edited August 9, 2017 by Sellular1

[Triple B]

1 hour ago, Sellular1 said:

USF Needs Their Own Info Commercial Stadium

 

Let’s face GaUSFBull doesn't know what he's talking about.  An on-campus stadium has been talked about for the South Florida Bulls for quite some time now. But with the hire of Charlie Strong has talk just gotten hotter?

In Strong’s introductory press conference he told the crowd that he had already been in discussion with USF president Judy Genshaft about an on campus stadium and the crowd exploded with applause. Now an on-campus stadium has been a hot topic for the past week.

Early in the 2016 year the Museum of Science and Industry announced they would be relocating to downtown Tampa. That initially sparked USF football fans to urge the school to buy that land to build an on-campus stadium.

 

 

Of course there has been much debate on whether USF needs an on-campus stadium or not. So let’s get into it.

Disadvantages Of Having An On-Campus Stadium

A big selling point for the Bulls is the chance for players to play in a NFL stadium. With tough recruiting that is definitely something USF could use to their advantage. With an on-campus stadium the school would no longer have Raymond James Stadium as a recruiting tactic.

There is also the maintenance and upkeep of an on-campus stadium. Right now USF doesn’t have to worry about since the Tampa Sports Authority manages Raymond James Stadium. But really that might be a small sacrifice to the benefits of having an on-campus stadium.

Advantages Of Having An On-Campus Stadium

Just as Raymond James Stadium is a recruiting selling point, it is also a downfall. A home game for Bulls players involves always being bused to and from their games. Ray Jay is also the home of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, which means USF is not truly playing in a home stadium of their own. Despite having a field painted in the USF logo, the rest of the stadium is decked out in Buccaneers attire. It could be said that USF games are one big giant info commercial for the Bucs.

“I feel like once you get a stadium on campus it’s (the players) home, it’s what they defend, it’s their house and that’s going to be critical and that’s going to happen,” Strong said during his introductory press conference.

Photo: USF Bulls

Of course attendance has been an issue for USF for the past few seasons. Even with a 10-2, possibly 11-2, season attendance has been a struggle. Of course more than one 10-2 season is going to be needed to rebuild the low point the program had hit, but with attendance averaging 27,887 per game this season many say an on-campus stadium would help with that issue. Currently students have the ability to ride a bus from USF campus to Raymond James Stadium. But doesn’t it seem more fun to be able to drink in the frat houses and walk to the football game whether than worrying about a designated driver or catching the bus?

Even with attendance not being an issue, an on-campus stadium is something that sets the atmosphere at college football games apart from any other sport. The Bulls may one day grow into one of the top programs in the state of Florida, but the Bulls need their own home to make it a program that draws Tampa Bay football fans to them to continue their growth.

That's one of the fanciest message board posts I've seen in a while, although kind of disjointed. You did write it all, right?

[The Sheriff]

On 8/8/2017 at 9:55 AM, Bausfkid said:

And Donald Trump tweeted several times last night.  Big deal, nothing new here. 

President Donald Trump to you...

[Triple B]

5 hours ago, ArmyBull said:

 If we built the exact same stadium as C. Florida, attendance would go up, alumni support would go up....  

If that was a certainty, or even close to a certainty, the ball would have started rolling years ago. If you have any proof that USF football attendance and alumni support is being significantly affected in a negative way by playing at RayJay over a piece of **** stadium on campus, your assistance with the feasibility study would be most helpful.

[Apis Bull]

7 hours ago, IBulleve said:

The Orange Bowl was one of, if not the best atmosphere in college football at the time. 

We shouldn't compare ourselves to the rest of the AAC. That's how you get stuck in G5 purgatory. 

Thanks for proving my point.  The Orange Bowl, while a dump and an off-campus stadium, was as you put it, "one of, if not the best atmosphere in college football..."