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I like this hire because this guy has been coaching against offenses that are 10x as good as any of the other AAC teams. He has had better players to coach granted, but he has also been having to coach his guys to compete with teams that are 10x the athletes of other AAC teams, and 10x the coaching smart .

We need a good OC hire thst can put the talent we have in a position to succeed and for Taggart to sit back and watch and call timeouts and we may just have a chance at being slightly better than 2014.

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JTrue
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A better one than ours.

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Can he coach offense?

DELdaBull
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Don't let slick get under your skin GA. On paper this is a great hire.

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I like this hire because this guy has been coaching against offenses that are 10x as good as any of the other AAC teams. He has had better players to coach granted, but he has also been having to coach his guys to compete with teams that are 10x the athletes of other AAC teams, and 10x the coaching smart .

We need a good OC hire thst can put the talent we have in a position to succeed and for Taggart to sit back and watch and call timeouts and we may just have a chance at being slightly better than 2014.

See, I think USF could have found an experienced DC because there are good ones at all levels. And just like you said, the difference is they don't have the same quality players, but their schemes work. Snyder was a good position coach. Cosh was one, I don't know how good. No guarantee a position coach translates to a great DC.

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Wow, slick ... respectfully, you are literally digging through the message board dumpster looking for things to complain about. 

 

A position coach's natural "next rung up" on the ladder is a coordinator position.  It's the next logical progression in a coach's career.

 

None of knows if CWT "settled for less."  Unless you were in the building when he was going through resumes and making phone calls, there's no way you can know for certain that CWT is settling for less.  As DELdaBull said above, on paper, this is a great hire. 

 

Also, your use of "when" instead of "if" in this sentence:

 

 

IMO they should hire Tony Levine for OC and when the season goes to pot promote him to HC.

 

 

just speaks volumes.  It smacks of your Bresnahan thread you created before CWT's first ever season. 

 

It may very well play out like you say, but hopefully you're rooting for CWT and the Bulls to succeed and not against them, just because you can't stand CWT.   Let's roll with what we have and hopefully the moves the team is making will pan out. 

 

Don't try to understand it, don't try to reason with it, just let it get it out of it's system.  It feeds off of your responses and it's responses will only get more ridiculous,  

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I like this hire because this guy has been coaching against offenses that are 10x as good as any of the other AAC teams. He has had better players to coach granted, but he has also been having to coach his guys to compete with teams that are 10x the athletes of other AAC teams, and 10x the coaching smart .

We need a good OC hire thst can put the talent we have in a position to succeed and for Taggart to sit back and watch and call timeouts and we may just have a chance at being slightly better than 2014.

See, I think USF could have found an experienced DC because there are good ones at all levels. And just like you said, the difference is they don't have the same quality players, but their schemes work. Snyder was a good position coach. Cosh was one, I don't know how good. No guarantee a position coach translates to a great DC.

 

there is no guarantee that  a successful DC from a lower level translates to one at this level either.

 

look at our last head coach. he is successful at c-usa level but couldn't hack it at this level.

 

there are no guarantees no matter which way you go.

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Wow, slick ... respectfully, you are literally digging through the message board dumpster looking for things to complain about. 

 

A position coach's natural "next rung up" on the ladder is a coordinator position.  It's the next logical progression in a coach's career.

 

None of knows if CWT "settled for less."  Unless you were in the building when he was going through resumes and making phone calls, there's no way you can know for certain that CWT is settling for less.  As DELdaBull said above, on paper, this is a great hire. 

 

Also, your use of "when" instead of "if" in this sentence:

 

 

IMO they should hire Tony Levine for OC and when the season goes to pot promote him to HC.

 

just speaks volumes.  It smacks of your Bresnahan thread you created before CWT's first ever season. 

 

It may very well play out like you say, but hopefully you're rooting for CWT and the Bulls to succeed and not against them, just because you can't stand CWT.   Let's roll with what we have and hopefully the moves the team is making will pan out.

You mean the fired DC? You're bringing up a thread I made about a DC with a questionable past who was fired after 2 seasons? I don't see you calling anyone out who made similar threads about Taggart, which so far seem dead on.

I've not seen anything positive from CWT except recruiting. It's been a total FUBAR. He is too inexperienced and seems to be too much of a micromanager. He seems to play favorites. He has done nothing positive at the QB position.

Of course I hope the team does well, but it seems we now have a DC who will be learning as he goes. Being a Bucs fan you saw how that went when their OC was out for health issues and instead of hiring an OC they had the QB coach learn on the job. He called some of the same questionable plays we've seen USF call under Taggart. Trying to say that no one wants to come to USF is a BS excuse in my book, there are lots of intangibles beyond the pay for that job.

I think after the past two years I deserve to be cautious about any hire of CWT and not just beat the band wagon drum.

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I like this hire because this guy has been coaching against offenses that are 10x as good as any of the other AAC teams. He has had better players to coach granted, but he has also been having to coach his guys to compete with teams that are 10x the athletes of other AAC teams, and 10x the coaching smart .

We need a good OC hire thst can put the talent we have in a position to succeed and for Taggart to sit back and watch and call timeouts and we may just have a chance at being slightly better than 2014.

See, I think USF could have found an experienced DC because there are good ones at all levels. And just like you said, the difference is they don't have the same quality players, but their schemes work. Snyder was a good position coach. Cosh was one, I don't know how good. No guarantee a position coach translates to a great DC.

there is no guarantee that  a successful DC from a lower level translates to one at this level either.

 

look at our last head coach. he is successful at c-usa level but couldn't hack it at this level.

 

there are no guarantees no matter which way you go.

HC isn't a coordinator's job. He failed because of who he hired at coordinator.

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I like this hire because this guy has been coaching against offenses that are 10x as good as any of the other AAC teams. He has had better players to coach granted, but he has also been having to coach his guys to compete with teams that are 10x the athletes of other AAC teams, and 10x the coaching smart .

We need a good OC hire thst can put the talent we have in a position to succeed and for Taggart to sit back and watch and call timeouts and we may just have a chance at being slightly better than 2014.

See, I think USF could have found an experienced DC because there are good ones at all levels. And just like you said, the difference is they don't have the same quality players, but their schemes work. Snyder was a good position coach. Cosh was one, I don't know how good. No guarantee a position coach translates to a great DC.

there is no guarantee that  a successful DC from a lower level translates to one at this level either.

 

look at our last head coach. he is successful at c-usa level but couldn't hack it at this level.

 

there are no guarantees no matter which way you go.

HC isn't a coordinator's job. He failed because of who he hired at coordinator.

 

 

 

Didn't say it was a coordinator's job.

 

I said we hired a somewhat successful coach from a lower level and he failed.

 

He failed for many reasons. One of which was who he hired as coordinator. It was certainly not the only reason he failed.

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He failed because he failed.

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I didn't know where else to put this, but the illustrious Chris Cosh is at the University of Buffalo coaching their defensive line now:

 

http://www.ubbulls.com/sports/fball/coaches/Cosh

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I didn't know where else to put this, but the illustrious Chris Cosh is at the University of Buffalo coaching their defensive line now:

 

http://www.ubbulls.com/sports/fball/coaches/Cosh

His photo reminded me of:

Young-Frankenstein-young-frankenstein-41

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