New DC hired: Tom Allen

[slick1ru2]

So slick, you are going on record denying that Woulard decommitted BEFORE Holtz was fired?

 

Are you sure you really want to do that?

Are we going to be children and giggle and say, I meant April, tee heeeee heeeee heeee?

[GaUSFBull]

 

Recruitment timeline: Woulard committed to South Florida after Junior Day in Tampa in February. Then Woulard decommitted from April, but a few months later he recommitted to the Bulls.

 

 

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2013/2/6/3958136/asiantii-woulard-commit-announce-ucla-clemson-usf

[GaUSFBull]

 

So slick, you are going on record denying that Woulard decommitted BEFORE Holtz was fired?

 

Are you sure you really want to do that?

Are we going to be children and giggle and say, I meant April, tee heeeee heeeee heeee?

 

 

We're not GOING to be children, we ARE children ... we, including you, are right in the thick of it right now. 

[GaUSFBull]

It's really not that hard to grasp.  Woulard was FAR from a sure thing, even before Holtz was fired. 

[slick1ru2]

It's really not that hard to grasp.  Woulard was FAR from a sure thing, even before Holtz was fired.

He was committed when Holtz was fired was all we know. Everything else is speculation, that is all that we can say for sure.

[JTrue]

Sweet. An AW thread cranking. Now everyone gets to come in and declare they KNEW Woulard was never going to come to USF even before Holtz was fired. And the irrefutable proof was that after being named the Elite 11 MVP he took another look around before publicly declaring he was sticking with USF.

[GaUSFBull]

Sweet. An AW thread cranking. Now everyone gets to come in and declare they KNEW Woulard was never going to come to USF even before Holtz was fired.

 

Find me someone who said that, and I'll give you a cookie. 

[JTrue]

It's really not that hard to grasp.  Woulard was FAR from a sure thing, even before Holtz was fired. 

What teenager is a sure thing? Hell, a dozen of them decommit on signing day every year 5 minutes after they mail in the paperwork. All you can do is secure a verbal and cross your fingers.

[Dogma]

 

 

 

You think Woulard was a solid commit until Holtz was fired? LOL ok sure thing there guy. A guy who decomitted twice before the final flip was solid?  Also, what has Woulard proven at the college level?  We don't even know if the kid is any good.

Fact. He decommitted AFTER Holtz was fired.

Fact. He decommitted BEFORE Holtz was fired.

You can start here and demand retractions:

http://www.voodoofive.com/2012/12/2/3719140/asiantii-woulard-decommits-from-usf-again-after-holtz-firing

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8702977/asiantii-woulard-top-dual-threat-qb-recruit-decommits-south-florida-bulls

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/id/40066/woulard-decommits-from-usf

 

 

You seem to ignore the fact that that even in your first link, it clearly states "decommits-from-usf-AGAIN"

 

He decommited TWICE, once pre-Skip firing and once post.

Woulard was not a solid commit.

Edited December 16, 2014 by Dogma

[Bull Dozer]

 

It's really not that hard to grasp.  Woulard was FAR from a sure thing, even before Holtz was fired. 

What teenager is a sure thing? Hell, a dozen of them decommit on signing day every year 5 minutes after they mail in the paperwork. All you can do is secure a verbal and cross your fingers.

 

 

This is exactly the point.  All we know is he was committed until that firing pretending that he was for sure going to be on campus is still a big unknown especially with some of the stuff surrounding his recruitment (SeldomSeen, Anyone?) while Holtz was here.  The kid had decomitted once from Hotlz when he thought the bigger offers were coming and recommitted when they didn't. He had already shown tendencies that he was just waiting for those bigger offers to bolt.  The kid was far from a sure thing like It is representing.  

 

The ONLY FACT in this is the only QB recruit Holtz closed on was Matt Floyd and had several others decommitt before signing day during his tenure at USF.  Holtz was a complete failure at closing on quality QB's while at USF and assuming the kid would for sure be here if Holtz was never fired it just as silly as assuming he wouldn't.  My OPINION is that considering Hotlz's complete failure to close on quality QB's and Woulard's behavior during his recruitment is he wasn't coming to USF once those bigger offers came.  

Edited December 16, 2014 by Bull Dozer