Its Time to Turn the Page on Willie Taggart

[Bull94]

 

 

Remember how terrible the Memphis football program was? Their current coach is 1 year ahead of Taggart in the rebuilding process. His records in years 1 and 2 were terrible, and in year 3(this season), he started 3-3 and then won 6 straight. His players bought in, and "got it." It takes awhile to change the culture.

Let's reevaluate after year 3.

The difference is that Memphis lost 5 games by 10 points or less last year and were starting a freshman in Lynch who has turned out to be a stud this year. They also won convincingly when they won. They lost 2 games where they held the lead with 2 minutes to go and many others where they were competitive into the 4th quarter. I would feel alot better about being 4-7 if we had a stud QB who was still learning as a freshman and we lost some tight games we could have won and beat some bad teams convincingly. In reality any decent team has beat us handily and the games against the worst of the worst have been a struggle.

Those are the things you look for as you are building. Being close in losses, with a young team and being able to see you are just a year of physical development or a player or two away gives confidence for the future.

When you look at our program, we look to be two more recruiting classes away from being where Memphis was last year.

 

nah. memphis had an easy conference schedule this year. if we set up that well next year than no reason why we won't have 7 or 8 wins.

 

yes they are better but it helps to play SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, Temple, USF and UConn to finish the season

[bullsfan1983]

 

 

 

Remember how terrible the Memphis football program was? Their current coach is 1 year ahead of Taggart in the rebuilding process. His records in years 1 and 2 were terrible, and in year 3(this season), he started 3-3 and then won 6 straight. His players bought in, and "got it." It takes awhile to change the culture.

Let's reevaluate after year 3.

The difference is that Memphis lost 5 games by 10 points or less last year and were starting a freshman in Lynch who has turned out to be a stud this year. They also won convincingly when they won. They lost 2 games where they held the lead with 2 minutes to go and many others where they were competitive into the 4th quarter. I would feel alot better about being 4-7 if we had a stud QB who was still learning as a freshman and we lost some tight games we could have won and beat some bad teams convincingly. In reality any decent team has beat us handily and the games against the worst of the worst have been a struggle.

Those are the things you look for as you are building. Being close in losses, with a young team and being able to see you are just a year of physical development or a player or two away gives confidence for the future.

When you look at our program, we look to be two more recruiting classes away from being where Memphis was last year.

 

nah. memphis had an easy conference schedule this year. if we set up that well next year than no reason why we won't have 7 or 8 wins.

 

yes they are better but it helps to play SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, Temple, USF and UConn to finish the season

 

Tulane, Tulsa, and SMU are all in the other division. The only conference teams that are guaranteed on the schedule are UCF, Cincinatti, East Carolina, Temple, and UConn. Also have a pretty tough OOC slate with Florida State and Maryland on the road and Syracuse at home.

[slick1ru2]

 

 

Taggart is staring at a 4-8 season in a terribly weak AAC. I suspect he gets a third year but some coaching changes may be coming on his staff. USF cannot afford a 5th straight losing season and alienate what little fans remain.

I think many on this board would be surprised if Taggart was let go after this season but Taggart is not Harlan's guy, and he is seeing what the on field performance is doing to the turnstile. Beyond the record that are many red flags about Taggart and his style of coaching/scheme. Harlan may limp along for a 3rd year but anything short of a bowl game next year and Taggart is gone - good luck with the quarterbacks we have.

If Harlan knows Taggart isn't his guy then it's better to pull the plug on it now.

Taggart is doing a tremendous job in recruiting.  anyone thinking this year was better than 4 wins doesn't understand where we are in terms of rebuilding. it takes time and recruits.

 

as far as his red flags I think it's fair to say that no coach at this level will be a "guru" or extraordinary gameday coach. He is young and can learn to be but he wouldn't be coaching here if he already were. Leavitt and Holtz both left a lot to be desired when it came to managing a game or making adjustments and gameplanning. Holtz had 1 offense ranked better than 60th in the country. we were ranked #93 in 2010 in total offense. I think execution has far more to do with it than scheme.

 

White will be fine. He is a true sophomore. He didn't have the luxury of sitting on the bench and learning the college game until he was a redshirt junior or senior which many QBs do. Sure we have had to endure his growing pains out in the open but he will be fine if he learns from his mistakes.

 

 

You can enroll in the fan site for his next job as an assistant and tell them how wonderful Willie Taggart is.  He's gone.

 

 

 

[slick1ru2]

 

 

 

Remember how terrible the Memphis football program was? Their current coach is 1 year ahead of Taggart in the rebuilding process. His records in years 1 and 2 were terrible, and in year 3(this season), he started 3-3 and then won 6 straight. His players bought in, and "got it." It takes awhile to change the culture.

Let's reevaluate after year 3.

The difference is that Memphis lost 5 games by 10 points or less last year and were starting a freshman in Lynch who has turned out to be a stud this year. They also won convincingly when they won. They lost 2 games where they held the lead with 2 minutes to go and many others where they were competitive into the 4th quarter. I would feel alot better about being 4-7 if we had a stud QB who was still learning as a freshman and we lost some tight games we could have won and beat some bad teams convincingly. In reality any decent team has beat us handily and the games against the worst of the worst have been a struggle.

Those are the things you look for as you are building. Being close in losses, with a young team and being able to see you are just a year of physical development or a player or two away gives confidence for the future.

When you look at our program, we look to be two more recruiting classes away from being where Memphis was last year.

 

nah. memphis had an easy conference schedule this year. if we set up that well next year than no reason why we won't have 7 or 8 wins.

 

yes they are better but it helps to play SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, Temple, USF and UConn to finish the season

 

 

 

The only way that happens is if 1) CWT is gone or 2) he gets special permission for USF to just play Sun Belt and FCS teams. Not the good ones though, lordy no.

[Mission9]

 

Remember how terrible the Memphis football program was?  Their current coach is 1 year ahead of Taggart in the rebuilding process.  His records in years 1 and 2 were terrible, and in year 3(this season), he started 3-3 and then won 6 straight.  His players bought in, and "got it."  It takes awhile to change the culture.

Let's reevaluate after year 3.

 

This needs to be emphasized ... Fuentes 3 wins last year were against two "directional" Tennessee teams and us. Taggart may or may not be the one but to give him less that 3 years is totally irrational ... especially since the most of the ones whining about CWT told us that Holtz had completely destroyed USF football.

 

  I agree with our friend Shoop. In any event, I have no issues with those who want Taggart out and who pushed for Holtz to be gone.  They just want the rascals out.  The problem I have is with the revisionist historians who make it sound like USF football stunk before Skip saved the program and who actually wish he were still here.

[Who'sYourData?]

 

 

Remember how terrible the Memphis football program was?  Their current coach is 1 year ahead of Taggart in the rebuilding process.  His records in years 1 and 2 were terrible, and in year 3(this season), he started 3-3 and then won 6 straight.  His players bought in, and "got it."  It takes awhile to change the culture.

Let's reevaluate after year 3.

 

This needs to be emphasized ... Fuentes 3 wins last year were against two "directional" Tennessee teams and us. Taggart may or may not be the one but to give him less that 3 years is totally irrational ... especially since the most of the ones whining about CWT told us that Holtz had completely destroyed USF football.

 

  I agree with our friend Shoop. In any event, I have no issues with those who want Taggart out and who pushed for Holtz to be gone.  They just want the rascals out.  The problem I have is with the revisionist historians who make it sound like USF football stunk before Skip saved the program and who actually wish he were still here.

 

 

That's strange.  I've never heard read anyone saying that Skip saved the program.  You must have TBP confused with another board.

[Mission9]

 

 

 

Remember how terrible the Memphis football program was?  Their current coach is 1 year ahead of Taggart in the rebuilding process.  His records in years 1 and 2 were terrible, and in year 3(this season), he started 3-3 and then won 6 straight.  His players bought in, and "got it."  It takes awhile to change the culture.

Let's reevaluate after year 3.

 

This needs to be emphasized ... Fuentes 3 wins last year were against two "directional" Tennessee teams and us. Taggart may or may not be the one but to give him less that 3 years is totally irrational ... especially since the most of the ones whining about CWT told us that Holtz had completely destroyed USF football.

 

  I agree with our friend Shoop. In any event, I have no issues with those who want Taggart out and who pushed for Holtz to be gone.  They just want the rascals out.  The problem I have is with the revisionist historians who MAKE IT SOUND LIKE USF football stunk before Skip saved the program and who actually wish he were still here.

 

 

That's strange.  I've never heard read anyone saying that Skip saved the program.  You must have TBP confused with another board.

 

I think the fans of Skippypoo are the ones confused.

[Bulls On Parade]

Skip lucked out he came to a program in good shape and left it in 3 years as a dumpster fire.

Cwt has it much tougher than Skip and he should atleast get 3 years.

[JTrue]

Remember how terrible the Memphis football program was? Their current coach is 1 year ahead of Taggart in the rebuilding process. His records in years 1 and 2 were terrible, and in year 3(this season), he started 3-3 and then won 6 straight. His players bought in, and "got it." It takes awhile to change the culture.

Let's reevaluate after year 3.

This needs to be emphasized ... Fuentes 3 wins last year were against two "directional" Tennessee teams and us. Taggart may or may not be the one but to give him less that 3 years is totally irrational ... especially since the most of the ones whining about CWT told us that Holtz had completely destroyed USF football.

I agree with our friend Shoop. In any event, I have no issues with those who want Taggart out and who pushed for Holtz to be gone. They just want the rascals out. The problem I have is with the revisionist historians who MAKE IT SOUND LIKE USF football stunk before Skip saved the program and who actually wish he were still here.

That's strange. I've never heard read anyone saying that Skip saved the program. You must have TBP confused with another board.

I think the fans of Skippypoo are the ones confused.

Link? Quote? Anything that even remotely says anyone here has ever said Skip saved the program? I'll lower the bar for you, give me one person who's even said Skip was a success.

[Mission9]

http://thebullspen.com/topic/98420-anyone-miss-holtz-yet/

Edited November 24, 2014 by Mission9