NCBull Posted January 18, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 112 Content Count: 8,159 Reputation: 864 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/25/2008 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm101 Posted January 18, 2014 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 6,972 Reputation: 2,234 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I'm gonna play devils advocate and say all the sporting eventsthat Higgins brought are more a product of Tampa than of anything special about the man himself. Tampa is a good city and easy sell. I don't like the idea of hiring someone based on accomplishments that are products of other factors. I'd rather use better metrics to guage one's MANAGEMENT skills as well as collegiate connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hem Posted January 18, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 4,663 Reputation: 401 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/24/2012 Share Posted January 18, 2014 This about sums it up. https://twitter.com/usfcollin/status/424312756355874816 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted January 18, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted January 18, 2014 This about sums it up. https://twitter.com/usfcollin/status/424312756355874816 Here's the pic - pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhambuc Posted January 18, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 165 Content Count: 2,233 Reputation: 224 Days Won: 6 Joined: 08/18/2011 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) I'm gonna play devils advocate and say all the sporting eventsthat Higgins brought are more a product of Tampa than of anything special about the man himself. Tampa is a good city and easy sell. I don't like the idea of hiring someone based on accomplishments that are products of other factors. I'd rather use better metrics to guage one's MANAGEMENT skills as well as collegiate connections. Agree with This^ . Don't F it up USF, the New AD cant be a mistake, it has to be someone to fix the years of Woolard's mess and years of falling behind. We need a PROVEN AD with a Proven Track Record (someone like Jurich from Louisville) or someone with Texas Ties to help the transition to the Big 12 when they expand again. Edited January 18, 2014 by Dhambuc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm101 Posted January 18, 2014 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 6,972 Reputation: 2,234 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I'm gonna play devils advocate and say all the sporting eventsthat Higgins brought are more a product of Tampa than of anything special about the man himself. Tampa is a good city and easy sell. I don't like the idea of hiring someone based on accomplishments that are products of other factors. I'd rather use better metrics to guage one's MANAGEMENT skills as well as collegiate connections. Agree with This^ . Don't F it up USF, the New AD cant be a mistake, it has to be someone to fix the years of Woolard's mess and years of falling behind. We need a PROVEN AD with a Proven Track Record (someone like Jurich from Louisville) or someone with Texas Ties to help the transition to the Big 12 when they expand again. Everyone talks about the need for local fundraising. If the right hire has the right connections to help us in conference realignment, that problem will take care of itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted January 18, 2014 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,022 Reputation: 10,823 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Local fundraising does not require a local guy. LRS was a completely different case than Higgins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted January 18, 2014 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,603 Reputation: 10,863 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I'm gonna play devils advocate and say all the sporting eventsthat Higgins brought are more a product of Tampa than of anything special about the man himself. Tampa is a good city and easy sell. I don't like the idea of hiring someone based on accomplishments that are products of other factors. I'd rather use better metrics to guage one's MANAGEMENT skills as well as collegiate connections. Agree with This^ . Don't F it up USF, the New AD cant be a mistake, it has to be someone to fix the years of Woolard's mess and years of falling behind. We need a PROVEN AD with a Proven Track Record (someone like Jurich from Louisville) or someone with Texas Ties to help the transition to the Big 12 when they expand again. Everyone talks about the need for local fundraising. If the right hire has the right connections to help us in conference realignment, that problem will take care of itself. I think it's just the opposite. This myopic view by some that our biggest need is someone with connections to get us out of here, to the Big 12 or whatever, is just plain wrong, IMO. You need someone who'll be able to make USF flourish where we are now, as distasteful as that is to many. Someone to tap more into local fundraising, create more of a local buzz for USF .... IF that's possible in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted January 18, 2014 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,022 Reputation: 10,823 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted January 18, 2014 That's a good debate. Local money needed National brand needed I hope we (USF) aren't so myopic and defeated to think we can only take a crack at one or the other. Sometimes typical. We need to believe we are big time, we have a program to get back on track and sell to the country not just the 'Noles and Gators in Tampa. We need a money raiser, but we need a strategist and a rainmaker. This AD won't be able to nap, we need a highly productive guy to rehabilitate this program on multiple fronts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted January 18, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 602 Content Count: 16,372 Reputation: 2,883 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) That's a good debate. Local money needed National brand needed I hope we (USF) aren't so myopic and defeated to think we can only take a crack at one or the other. Sometimes typical. We need to believe we are big time, we have a program to get back on track and sell to the country no just the 'Noles and Gators in Tampa. And Trip, I know you aren't suggesting this. But it's what I have seen on Fowler for decades. It will take some kind of miracle to turn this around. I am holding out hope that the big mess will get turned around. Wont happen overnight. Just wish Tampa Bay had better fans instead of all the fairweather bandwagon types. But it is what it is. Cant never give up hope. Edited January 18, 2014 by Bull Daly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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