puc86 Posted February 25, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,252 Reputation: 6,141 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, chapelbull said: still doesn't explain the "steady decline" since he took over reference I mean in theory you can have a steady decline over the course of a game, a few games or an entire season. Certainly he doesn’t seem to be trending positively but stranger things have happened than him turning it around. Given our current run rate on coaches we may want to start paying people by the hour instead of offering contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roaming Bull Posted February 25, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 9,756 Reputation: 2,174 Days Won: 25 Joined: 09/20/2014 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Fire all the coaches and just let the train and recruit themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted February 25, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,252 Reputation: 6,141 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Roaming Bull said: Fire all the coaches and just let the train and recruit themselves I think we should institute crowd sourced coaching brought to you by thebullspen.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roaming Bull Posted February 25, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 9,756 Reputation: 2,174 Days Won: 25 Joined: 09/20/2014 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Just now, puc86 said: I think we should institute crowd sourced coaching brought to you by thebullspen.com Twitch but for sports. Could be interesting, but I think we might scare the **** out of a lot kids on the recruiting trail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted February 25, 2020 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,608 Reputation: 10,866 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 hours ago, puc86 said: You are shocked by this? I pride myself on my consistency. Point well taken ...... you've been kind of lying low lately so I was lulled into a state of forgetfulness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted February 25, 2020 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,608 Reputation: 10,866 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 hours ago, BrassBulls12 said: Also, not that I care to much but it might be time for an OT tread. Premature "Fire Coach ___________" threads, by definition, should already be considered OT and therefore no need for breaking anything out ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Glaser Posted February 25, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 358 Content Count: 4,124 Reputation: 2,535 Days Won: 56 Joined: 02/01/2005 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, chapelbull said: He's been here 2 years. Went to the NCAA Tourney Year 1 and crapped the bed Year 2. Not sure how that is "steady downhill since" Sure looks to me like he's on the Charlie Strong plan. Inherit a good program and run it steadily down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Glaser Posted February 25, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 358 Content Count: 4,124 Reputation: 2,535 Days Won: 56 Joined: 02/01/2005 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, brybull1970 said: Sounds like there are two schools of thought here: 1. The program is trending down, but be patient he may turn things around in Year 3 like CWT, and firing him now doesn't change the immediate trajectory of the program unless we have someone we can plug in that is an obvious upgrade 2. The program is trending down and in the words of Jeremy Foley, "What should be done eventually, must be done immediately." Regardless, we now have another high profile program that is trending in the wrong direction. This is clearly another black mark under Mark Harlan at USF - during his tenure from March 2014 to July 2018 he hired Charlie Strong, Orlando Antigua, Brian Gregory and Billy Mohl. Gregory is a clear upgrade over Antigua, but the other 3 have managed to leave (or currently have) their respective programs in worse shape than they entered them. Firing him now won’t make any difference or turn the season around. The talent isn’t there for that to happen. But it is inevitable. Harlan gave in to the want of the players at the time and promoted Mohl. He wasn’t ready for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonesy Bull Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 7 hours ago, BrassBulls12 said: yeah, I think you gotta understand that if you say anything nice about a coach not name Leavitt, Puc is coming for you. Well he will get to see his man love coach this year - Mr. Leavitt....when we play down in Boca Raton in Game 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonesy Bull Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Dave_Glaser said: Firing him now won’t make any difference or turn the season around. The talent isn’t there for that to happen. But it is inevitable. Harlan gave in to the want of the players at the time and promoted Mohl. He wasn’t ready for it. Looking back Mr Harlan really set us back more than anybody at the time could have realized. He was so incompetent. Im not ready to say Kelly is a Saint or anything, but **** what an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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