Charlie's Successor... Already on our Sidelines

[Bullgrad84]

17 hours ago, Bull94 said:

you can laugh all you want at sb nation but the figures they use in their analysis are facts. we ranked #11 in returning offensive production in the country. easily verifiable. 9 returning starters on offense. again not some made up number.

care to link an article claiming our drops have increased this year?

all those sophomore linemen we have this year that are terrible according to some were freshman last year that got plenty of playing time.

trust me strong is terrible and everyone blamed gilbert last year. kerwin has done nothing to earn a pass this year though and people are blind to think he has earned even a shot at interim.

It’s obvious we have struggled vs teams that are a lot better than us talent wise. But vs teams like Ecu where talent is close or worst Ckb offense has been putting up some points. And you see the play design and the game planning. Even BYU game if mccloud could hit the open routes and deep balls to mcdoom we would have at least 3 more touchdowns. That’s the difference from last year, we were struggling with all the sorry teams like Ecu, UConn etc! 

[DELdaBull]

4 minutes ago, Bullgrad84 said:

Ccs has been preaching in his interviews about running the football. If you go watch Valdosta state last year when they do that it looks nothing like the offense he wants to run. Maybe he’s not having total full control. Or maybe they just though with a young qb that hasn’t been playing well. Just try to run the ball and help him out. 

Strong and Bell have said on numerous occasions that Bell is in complete control of the offense.  When the offense is on the field Strong usually doesn't even have his headphones on. Please stop trying to blame Strong for this putrid offense other than a terrible hire. 

[puc86]

15 minutes ago, Bullgrad84 said:

No Johnny ford, (ran for 800 yards as a true freshman) , no Solomon (Starter), mccants(starter), Bronson(Starter), duron Bell gone, Mack played some, then Antoine gone who is lightening it up at fau plus a qb who been hurt and can’t throw and looks scared to throw........can we be realistic! I do believe if we gave Ckb the reins in 3 years we would be in the conference championship! He just knows what it takes to get there! 

Pretty sure he started with Ford and he misused him and he wasn’t exactly lighting things up because of it. The other people are accounted for in the lost offensive production from last season in which we lost the 11th least in all of FBS football’s 130 teams. There really isn’t anything to point to for you to have this much blind faith in the guy. He lit it up for one season in DIIIIIII football and if anyone was as impressed by that feat as  much as people on this board are the guy wouldn’t be in a position where he could rightfully be losing his job after one season along with the coach he came in to rescue from the hot seat.

[Bullgrad84]

1 minute ago, puc86 said:

Pretty sure he started with Ford and he misused him and he wasn’t exactly lighting things up because of it. The other people are accounted for in the lost offensive production from last season in which we lost the 11th least in all of FBS football’s 130 teams. There really isn’t anything to point to for you to have this much blind faith in the guy. He lit it up for one season in DIIIIIII football and if anyone was as impressed by that feat as  much as people on this board are the guy wouldn’t be in a position where he could rightfully be losing his job after one season along with the coach he came in to rescue from the hot seat.

Ford played in 3 games had 100 yards receiving in 1 game. Caught 2 touchdowns and ran for 1 touchdown in 3 games. Yeah he don’t matter...... As much as you want to put it on ckb. We don’t have the playmakers right now or Qb. It’s all about players and leadership from the top. That goes to show recruiting the last 3 years and us getting worst every year, which has nothing to do with Ckb. 

[puc86]

1 minute ago, Bullgrad84 said:

Ford played in 3 games had 100 yards receiving in 1 game. Caught 2 touchdowns and ran for 1 touchdown in 3 games. Yeah he don’t matter...... As much as you want to put it on ckb. We don’t have the playmakers right now or Qb. It’s all about players and leadership from the top. That goes to show recruiting the last 3 years and us getting worst every year, which has nothing to do with Ckb. 

I do not want to put everything on KB I just want people to be honest and recognize that he plays a role (the amount can be debated but not that there is some amount due) in producing an offense that is one of the worst in the country because while the talent maybe lacking its not to the level he has dragged the offense down to (or at least there is no data point to support that assertion). Should the problem be entirely talent and there is nothing his amazing coaching can do to produce even a salvageable offense that is even in the realm of Gilbert's offense what top level talent has he brought in during his decade of coaching that you think will close that gap? Has he ever brought in a 5 star recruit? A four star? Even a three star? His roster has typically been made up of unrated players that were passed over by all FBS schools and all FCS scholarship schools and maybe just maybe his approach to recruiting will not fair any better here than his play calling. 

[NewEnglandBull]

1 hour ago, Bullgrad84 said:

If you watch the temple game Ckb threw some screens and rpo’s. (We don’t have players that can make plays in space) Also attempted to throw some slants and quick throws. Qb just held onto the ball or missed them..They also tried to go 2 tight ends to try to run the ball and take pressure off Qb. They just couldn’t handle them up on the line.  Ckb will get a qb that can win a championship. He always has, Look at the Qb he recruited at Ju and the Qb that lead them to the national championship at Valdosta could run and throw. He even had John Brantley in high school who was gator national player of the year under him. Flowers was the gulf coast. Proves with out him the offense was nothing. Just the same how good fliowers made us look in 2018. 

This. The play calling on the offensive side of the ball was decent last week. We just don’t have the players who can execute against better teams in the conference.

[NewEnglandBull]

1 hour ago, Bullgrad84 said:

Ford played in 3 games had 100 yards receiving in 1 game. Caught 2 touchdowns and ran for 1 touchdown in 3 games. Yeah he don’t matter...... As much as you want to put it on ckb. We don’t have the playmakers right now or Qb. It’s all about players and leadership from the top. That goes to show recruiting the last 3 years and us getting worst every year, which has nothing to do with Ckb. 

He is fine for an occasional run/pass play but too small to be a difference maker in a long game.  

[Azmodi]

Can we recruit this guy for our QB. With him, we won't need an O-Line to block.

 

[Gatorbull325]

2 hours ago, Bullgrad84 said:

Csk was a high school coach and wasn’t successful. did nothing to deserve to be a Oc. Ckb won a state championship in high school in 4 years and won championships at Jacksonville with top offense in the nation and won national championship at Valdosta state undefeated with top offense in the nation which is the same school that Kirby smart, mike leach, and Dana holgerson coached at. Ckb knows the state and knows what it takes to build programs. I believe he would kill it here! How is valdosta on a 24 game winning streak (Clemson is on a 25 game winning streak) undefeated again right now and won the conference ? Because those are Ckb’s players. He built that. Literally left them a dynasty. Crazy thing is all those kids come back next year! Ckb has always taken programs like ours and made them great. He’s a winner as a head coach. He wins championships which we haven’t done here. 

Once again, Im not anti KB. Im just saying that he has not EARNED chit at USF to be even considered as a coaching candidate

[Bullgrad84]

1 hour ago, Gatorbull325 said:

Once again, Im not anti KB. Im just saying that he has not EARNED chit at USF to be even considered as a coaching candidate

Hard to earn when you have been here since spring. first time Ckb has not been in charge and under someone else. He has always been a head coach and implemented his culture and built the program he was at by year 3. If we expected different results with this team and the way we have gotten worst the last 3 years then we are kidding ourselves.  Everyone else on staff has obviously not recruited well enough for us to compete for a championship.