puc86 Posted August 23, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted August 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said: We were a bad team talent wise but no excuse for McNeese and the execrable records his first two years. Taggart willfully imposed a system that would never work on his athletes. A great coach adjusts to what his players can do. A bad coach tries to force them into a mold they will never fit. Taggart can recruit, motivate and sell himself but I don't see the gameday ability. I will always stand by my opinion of him being a great fit for a CEO type coach who promotes, recruits and lets better people do the Xs and Os. I think this is a feeling most reasonable fans can get behind. USF and CWT both grew together under his era, to pretend he didn’t get at least as much from us during his stint is just disingenuous. I appreciate the strides he made during his tenure but he would have had to stay a while longer and grow his 1.5 years of success before all the sins of his beginning could be forgotten. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullstampede9922 Posted August 23, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 12 Content Count: 1,502 Reputation: 563 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/24/2013 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said: We were a bad team talent wise but no excuse for McNeese and the execrable records his first two years. Taggart willfully imposed a system that would never work on his athletes. A great coach adjusts to what his players can do. A bad coach tries to force them into a mold they will never fit. Taggart can recruit, motivate and sell himself but I don't see the gameday ability. I will always stand by my opinion of him being a great fit for a CEO type coach who promotes, recruits and lets better people do the Xs and Os. He was a fairly new coach who found success running a certain system. When he came here, he went with what worked from past experience. I fault him for not adapting sooner but I can''t blame him for going with what got him success in the first place. With the talent he has at Florida State, he could probably go back to the power run game and still have success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted August 23, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, bullstampede9922 said: He was a fairly new coach who found success running a certain system. When he came here, he went with what worked from past experience. I fault him for not adapting sooner but I can''t blame him for going with what got him success in the first place. With the talent he has at Florida State, he could probably go back to the power run game and still have success. His team is set up for his old style and he would probably find more success initially if he went back to it. Unfortunately he now has a completely different situation as last time and he is almost forced to go Gulf Coast when his Stanford system would afford him more immediate success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OcalaBull2 Posted August 23, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 2,322 Reputation: 775 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/02/2016 Share Posted August 23, 2018 40 minutes ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said: We were a bad team talent wise but no excuse for McNeese and the execrable records his first two years. Taggart willfully imposed a system that would never work on his athletes. A great coach adjusts to what his players can do. A bad coach tries to force them into a mold they will never fit. Taggart can recruit, motivate and sell himself but I don't see the gameday ability. I will always stand by my opinion of him being a great fit for a CEO type coach who promotes, recruits and lets better people do the Xs and Os. I think I may have been unfair about a lot of offensive/Gilbert discussions and judgements from last season, but is that not what happened during some of 2017? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Bull Posted August 23, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 148 Content Count: 5,900 Reputation: 628 Days Won: 5 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Clearly no one remembers that we did not have a talent issue in CWTs first 2 years... the issue was that the team didn't know how to win. He fixed that! He also made them practice in the humidity so that they would know how to play in humid conditions! He's a genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Bull Posted August 23, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 148 Content Count: 5,900 Reputation: 628 Days Won: 5 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted August 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, OcalaBull2 said: I think I may have been unfair about a lot of offensive/Gilbert discussions and judgements from last season, but is that not what happened during some of 2017? Gilbert held Q back a bit last year, I agree... maybe he's a bad coach, but, it's also about complementary football. The offense stayed on the field longer, gave the defense time to rest, giving them a better chance. Could the offense have blown the doors off and scored like 2016? Maybe, but, the 2016 defense was a steaming turd. I am giving the staff the benefit of the doubt here, maybe that had nothing to do with the way the offense was handled last year, but, if that was the goal, it's actually very smart coaching that puts the TEAM in the best position to win. May not be flashy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azmodi Posted August 23, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 12 Content Count: 3,233 Reputation: 1,169 Days Won: 8 Joined: 10/17/2013 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Orlando Bull said: Clearly no one remembers that we did not have a talent issue in CWTs first 2 years... the issue was that the team didn't know how to win. He fixed that! He also made them practice in the humidity so that they would know how to play in humid conditions! He's a genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted August 23, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted August 23, 2018 If you want comments or clicks: UCF OCS Woolard Taggart USF in the AAC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negron2002 Posted August 23, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 9 Content Count: 237 Reputation: 33 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/24/2009 Share Posted August 23, 2018 CWT is not a good coach, he is a good recruiter. As a HD he has more lost (50) than wins (47) that's less than .500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted August 23, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,738 Reputation: 10,964 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 17 pages of all the lame, usual excuses why it wasn't CWT that ultimately fueled the success here and no one mentioned (that I saw) the REAL reason .... Harlan having to give him the offense to install to turn the corner. The problem I've got with Taggart's quote was the weird wording about a plan after we got to #2. Pretty sure the plan was to keep winning It wasn't the lack of a plan, it was the execution of the plan. Maybe what he was trying to say was the failure to build off that #2 ranking ..... Edited August 23, 2018 by Triple B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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