USoFlo Posted March 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 26 Content Count: 334 Reputation: 50 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted March 26, 2014 USF basically had it's hands tied on this. I think they really wanted him just like we all did, but once you are presented with information like this, you HAVE to cut ties. Because if you don't, you are looking at a PR nightmare down the road when it comes out that you KNOWINGLY hired a couch you knew didn't graduated and lied on his resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted March 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted March 26, 2014 He lied on his resume so he gets the contract pulled. I get that. So on to the next one. However I don't think a college degree is necessary to coach basketball. I can agree with this in its entirety. Have to disagree with the neccesity of the degree. It is a college and basketball is an extracurricular activity while one is attending college to earn a degree. If a coach has never earned a degree why would he/she encourage their athletes to finish theirs? Barely any of our players make it to the NBA so their degree should be the most important goal while attending USF. It is that same ideology of a business first prinicipal that hurts the kids. They mentors/Role models first. I get your logic but have to kindly disagree. This kind of sums it up for me. I'm very disappointed that he is not going to be our coach, but the message to the student athletes must be first, last, and always, "finish your degree" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowers4Heisman Posted March 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 571 Content Count: 2,816 Reputation: 684 Days Won: 15 Joined: 12/08/2012 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Bulls, USF had no choice. Academia, especially a public university in Florida, is like working for the FBI -it's a government institution. Something like not having a degree is a big no-no for these kinds of jobs. You can't get in the door for most full-time positions at Florida academic institutions without some sort of higher eduction, unless it's a service job. A head coaching job is not a service job... Louisville and Manhattan missed it. USF caught it. That firm earned its money. ---------------------------------- But for me, this is like enduring five losses in a row in men's basketball or football in a few days' time. Man, we need some good news! What a kick in the nads! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFbulls24 Posted March 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 1,516 Reputation: 175 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/20/2013 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Just lost the best thing that would've happened to USF basketball.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted March 26, 2014 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,582 Reputation: 10,848 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Couple of hidden gems in the avalanche of posts this morning and I'm guessing only a handful in here got Woolly's: I would want to hire him more since I know he isn't a Wildcat alum. As for the actual contract... Steve turned over the piece of paper, and there, there on the Other side, in the middle of the other side, away from everything else on The other side, in parentheses, capital letters, quotated, read the Following words: ("COACH, HAVE YOU REHABILITATED YOURSELF?") Steve went over to Mark and said, "Mark, you got a lot a **** gall to Ask me if I've rehabilitated myself, I mean, I mean, I mean that just, I'm Sittin' here on the bench, I mean I'm sittin here on the Manhattan Jaspers bench 'cause you want to know if I'm moral enough coach USF, win twenty games a season, , go to the NCAA tournament after signing this contract." Mark looked at Steve and Said, "Coach, we don't like your kind, and we're gonna send your fingerprints off to the NCAA investigating authorities." You can get anything you want, at Fow-ler Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellular1 Posted March 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 196 Content Count: 6,614 Reputation: 1,781 Days Won: 51 Joined: 07/04/2008 Share Posted March 26, 2014 No one has said it yet, so I will. According to Joey Johnson's article, if we offered him a contract, he signed it, and we fired him, we may owe him a buyout, maybe a couple million (I really hope not, but don't dismiss this until we know more). Cosh, Holtz, Leavitt, Woolard, Heath, and maybe now Masiello ..... we can't keep paying people to not work for us. Typically, these contracts aren't signed for several weeks or months. Agreement maybe? If he signed a letter of agreement with USF (which acts like a contract, until the longer contract is signed) in good faith, and quit his job because of it (and suffered damages to his reputation), then USF canceled the contract (or letter of agreement), I would think he has standing to sue for the value of the contract. Unless it specifically spelled out the circumstances that would allow USF to void the deal without penalty, and USF simply followed the contract. Every person we hire has a contingency clause in their employment contract that says this offer is contingent on successfully passing a drug and background check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted March 26, 2014 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,582 Reputation: 10,848 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Just lost the best thing that would've happened to USF basketball....Nah, Auburn snatched him up ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted March 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Good points about the necessity of the degree. I see the points. However, he's there to coach a basketball team and to win. I don't see any hypocrisy in a coach without a degree that encourages his players to go to class and get your degree, however, if an opportunity arises before you graduate, seize it. I see the other side of it too. I am very curious, though, as to why Masiello didn't get a degree. I really want to know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePuddingMan Posted March 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 6 Content Count: 386 Reputation: 44 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/08/2012 Share Posted March 26, 2014 On 98.7 this morning, Jim talked to his source at USF and said that he believed that a degree is required to coach at any public university in Florida because of state law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted March 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Integrity is the number one leadership tenet and the foundation of everything. For those of you who don't get this you may want to take a hard look at your life. Go Bulls! Where does condescension rank on that leadership tenet list? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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