Dave_Glaser Posted August 7, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 354 Content Count: 4,095 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 56 Joined: 02/01/2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: I agree that he does break news like Greg did. Greg is in a class by himself compared to Joey. But at the same time, do we still make news on the same level that we did in the Big East? I agree I would like to see a story on the USF Fraternity scandal. I saw the original list that a girl(s) posted on Twitter and there were names of several former football players - and a former basketball player. Let’s be clear, it was the wrong thing to do to post that on social media. Edited August 7, 2020 by Dave_Glaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted August 7, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Dave_Glaser said: I saw the original list that a girl(s) posted on Twitter and there were names of several former football players. I saw that as well. I believe one player was a starter. I have heard nothing from USF about a follow up to this. I suspect there are a lot “no comment” and “we are investigating” statements being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted August 8, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 hours ago, NewEnglandBull said: I agree that he does break news like Greg did. Greg is in a class by himself compared to Joey. But at the same time, do we still make news on the same level that we did in the Big East? We should, I mean with the aac being better than the Big East and all ...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted August 8, 2020 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,611 Content Count: 74,530 Reputation: 10,811 Days Won: 422 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted August 8, 2020 To me, this whole "breaking" news emphasis is the kind of **** that got us to this point of wanting to get it first, not necessarily right. We had a beat reporter who likes to break AND make news. Sorry, I'm good with getting news in a timely, accurate manner not really caring that much if I hear it hours before anyone else does. JK's far from perfect, attendance obsession awhile back being a good example, but I think a lot of the grief he gets just comes from the thin skinned who don't even read him ..... obviously not you, Dave, since you apparently do read his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Glaser Posted August 8, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 354 Content Count: 4,095 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 56 Joined: 02/01/2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Triple B said: To me, this whole "breaking" news emphasis is the kind of **** that got us to this point of wanting to get it first, not necessarily right. We had a beat reporter who likes to break AND make news. Sorry, I'm good with getting news in a timely, accurate manner not really caring that much if I hear it hours before anyone else does. JK's far from perfect, attendance obsession awhile back being a good example, but I think a lot of the grief he gets just comes from the thin skinned who don't even read him ..... obviously not you, Dave, since you apparently do read his stuff. I just think he’s a lazy reporter. Most of the guys I knew and worked with who cared about their beat were driven to get the story first - AND right. And if you’ve been on the beat as long as he has, it shouldn’t be too hard at this point. You should have built a network of sources who you can go to for info because they trust that you’ll do a professional job. I had them, and I guarantee you guys like Greg and Brett did, too. As do other reporters all over the world. Edited August 8, 2020 by Dave_Glaser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted August 8, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,851 Reputation: 3,975 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted August 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dave_Glaser said: I just think he’s a lazy reporter. Most of the guys I knew and worked with who cared about their beat were driven to get the story first - AND right. And if you’ve been on the beat as long as he has, it shouldn’t be too hard at this point. You should have built a network of sources who you can go to for info because they trust that you’ll do a professional job. I had them, and I guarantee you guys like Greg and Brett did, too. As do other reporters all over the world. There is no beat anymore, anyone chasing a story is the paparazzi, journalism is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted August 8, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted August 8, 2020 36 minutes ago, Dave_Glaser said: I just think he’s a lazy reporter. Most of the guys I knew and worked with who cared about their beat were driven to get the story first - AND right. And if you’ve been on the beat as long as he has, it shouldn’t be too hard at this point. You should have built a network of sources who you can go to for info because they trust that you’ll do a professional job. I had them, and I guarantee you guys like Greg and Brett did, too. As do other reporters all over the world. This is my take too. He is the one that is supposedly investing the most time on this subject, everyone there knows who he is and if he put any effort in building the relationships necessary to do his job well he would be getting the information that other people not even focused on this are able to garner. That he almost never breaks the news tells me that he is just showing up and doing the absolute minimum by reporting what is given to him along with anyone that just shows up instead of actually trying to develop anything. That he takes this lazy approach while also taking jabs at our fanbase is just the icing on the cake of worthlessness to our program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted August 8, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,677 Reputation: 5,814 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted August 8, 2020 12 hours ago, Dave_Glaser said: I just think he’s a lazy reporter. Most of the guys I knew and worked with who cared about their beat were driven to get the story first - AND right. And if you’ve been on the beat as long as he has, it shouldn’t be too hard at this point. You should have built a network of sources who you can go to for info because they trust that you’ll do a professional job. I had them, and I guarantee you guys like Greg and Brett did, too. As do other reporters all over the world. 11 hours ago, puc86 said: This is my take too. He is the one that is supposedly investing the most time on this subject, everyone there knows who he is and if he put any effort in building the relationships necessary to do his job well he would be getting the information that other people not even focused on this are able to garner. That he almost never breaks the news tells me that he is just showing up and doing the absolute minimum by reporting what is given to him along with anyone that just shows up instead of actually trying to develop anything. That he takes this lazy approach while also taking jabs at our fanbase is just the icing on the cake of worthlessness to our program. While I'm not a huge fan of JK's I have to defend the claim that he should have a "network of sources". Who in USF Athletics, other than Barry Clements has been here more that 5 years? Lelo was here, then gone and now back again. A few individual coaches (Erickson and Fernandez come to mind) have been but people at the top have been in and out like a revolving door. I guess you only need one guy. Just my 1.5 cents (deflation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted August 8, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Just now, CousinRicky said: While I'm not a huge fan of JK's I have to defend the claim that he should have a "network of sources". Who in USF Athletics, other than Barry Clements has been here more that 5 years? Lelo was here, then gone and now back again. A few individual coaches (Erickson and Fernandez come to mind) have been but people at the top have been in and out like a revolving door. I guess you only need one guy. Just my 1.5 cents (deflation). IDK cuz you seem to have no problems connecting, many others on here have people that feed them information and even Brett still gets people to feed him information and he has not even stepped foot in the building in at least a score. I am not sure if it is because he is unlikable, lazy or has a very punchable face but people do not seem to connect with him or give him any insider information which seems like a necessary component of being a beat writer (especially when you are close to the only one). That he seems more focused on jabs than delivering something that shows any effort does not endear himself to most of our fanbase, not that I think he cares much about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted August 8, 2020 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,611 Content Count: 74,530 Reputation: 10,811 Days Won: 422 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, puc86 said: That he seems more focused on jabs than delivering something that shows any effort does not endear himself to most of our fanbase, not that I think he cares much about that. In the month of August he's posted 8 articles pertaining to USF, along with several more about other high school sports, with not a jab in there that I could find. A couple of Twitter pokes and some go bat**** crazy with extrapolating it out ...... yeah, looking at you, puc. I don't mind criticism where it's deserved, and the MSU jabs deserved note, but crikey, the making mountains out out of molehills (even though a board tradition) makes us sound like whiny little ******* at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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