Possible CCS Replacements

[Bull Dozer]

10 minutes ago, chapelbull said:

He's right though playing nationally relevant power conference games positively boosted interest and recruiting. Those days are gone, we're secondary class citizens now. It's about recruiting, good coaching, and a HC that busts his ass in every aspect of his job especially off the field stuff (community involvement, courting donors etc). 

[zarnozdabull]

2 hours ago, CousinRicky said:

MBB - on campus arena.  Check out the number of students some night.  You literally can sit and count them.  The OCS argument is garbage.  Students just don't seem to GAF.

In the end Florida is a football state, so comparing a potential football OCS to the Sun Dome is apples to oranges.

That, and the fact that the basketball team also keeps losing to the likes of IUPUI will not generate interest among students.

But the students at least will come out to watch football if our team isn't total garbage. 

The student section was consistently packed when we had a winning team (see attached pic - Cincy 2017). And that's taking into account the hassle of getting to Ray Jay as a student and all the potential risks involved with drinking etc. If the students come out to Ray Jay, they definitely would come out to an OCS.

The real problem is the casual fan. They REALLY dgaf, even with a winning team.

 

[Bull Matrix]

2 minutes ago, zarnozdabull said:

In the end Florida is a football state, so comparing a potential football OCS to the Sun Dome is apples to oranges.

That, and the fact that the basketball team also keeps losing to the likes of IUPUI will not generate interest among students.

But the students at least will come out to watch football if our team isn't total garbage. 

The student section was consistently packed when we had a winning team (see attached pic - Cincy 2017). And that's taking into account the hassle of getting to Ray Jay as a student and all the potential risks involved with drinking etc. If the students come out to Ray Jay, they definitely would come out to an OCS.

The real problem is the casual fan. They REALLY dgaf, even with a winning team.

 

Well said. One can look at both FSU and UF hoops to see that their support is no way as powerful as their support for football. And these programs have a lot of years of winning. 

[NewEnglandBull]

3 minutes ago, zarnozdabull said:

In the end Florida is a football state, so comparing a potential football OCS to the Sun Dome is apples to oranges.

That, and the fact that the basketball team also keeps losing to the likes of IUPUI will not generate interest among students.

But the students at least will come out to watch football if our team isn't total garbage. 

The student section was consistently packed when we had a winning team (see attached pic - Cincy 2017). And that's taking into account the hassle of getting to Ray Jay as a student and all the potential risks involved with drinking etc. If the students come out to Ray Jay, they definitely would come out to an OCS.

The real problem is the casual fan. They REALLY dgaf, even with a winning team.

 

I was at that Cincy game it was nicely attended. This should be the standard. 

[zarnozdabull]

4 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said:

I was at that Cincy game it was nicely attended. This should be the standard. 

The standard should be that ranking next to our name.

[NewEnglandBull]

3 minutes ago, zarnozdabull said:

The standard should be that ranking next to our name.

Indeed! 

[CousinRicky]

13 minutes ago, zarnozdabull said:

In the end Florida is a football state, so comparing a potential football OCS to the Sun Dome is apples to oranges.

That, and the fact that the basketball team also keeps losing to the likes of IUPUI will not generate interest among students.

But the students at least will come out to watch football if our team isn't total garbage. 

The student section was consistently packed when we had a winning team (see attached pic - Cincy 2017). And that's taking into account the hassle of getting to Ray Jay as a student and all the potential risks involved with drinking etc. If the students come out to Ray Jay, they definitely would come out to an OCS.

The real problem is the casual fan. They REALLY dgaf, even with a winning team.

 

Here is what you said that I responded to:

There's an opportunity cost though that you can't put a number on easily.  If our stadium was on campus, you'd likely have more students say 'eh why not' and walk on over when it takes just a few minutes to see a game vs the hassle of getting to Ray Jay. 

So, if Florida is a football state that why don't they make it to Ray Jay?  Well, it appears they will make it to Ray Jay if the team is playing well.  When MBB is playing well and against good opponents some students do show up. But the fact that an arena or stadium is on campus really has nothing to do with it.  Watch an SMU game from a couple of years back. Texas is a football state.  Where are the students?  This year they had more students. The difference? The team was playing better.  If you can get them to Ray Jay when they are playing well and there are good opponents you don't need an OCS.  If they are playing poorly against crappy opponents they aren't going to the game no matter the location. IMO

[Roaming Bull]

When can Aresco get us more money? We’re getting gypped. Our conference plays a tougher schedule then the B12 and the P10, and yet they receive more money than we do. We’ve produced more ranked teams and should demand a level playing field.

[CousinRicky]

Just now, Roaming Bull said:

When can Aresco get us more money? We’re getting gypped. Our conference plays a tougher schedule then the B12 and the P10, and yet they receive more money than we do. We’ve produced more ranked teams and should demand a level playing field.

Probably more about how many people watch the games on TV.

[Bull Matrix]

1 minute ago, Roaming Bull said:

When can Aresco get us more money? We’re getting gypped. Our conference plays a tougher schedule then the B12 and the P10, and yet they receive more money than we do. We’ve produced more ranked teams and should demand a level playing field.

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