Taggart and losing culture.....

[SpeedBull]

4 minutes ago, puc86 said:

CCS, CWT and CSH are all three peas in the same ****** pod arguing over any of them being better than one another is like arguing over AAC supremacy. We have had one football coach that tried to bring beauty into our ugly world and we killed him for it.

I do think that Taggart showed to be a very good recruiter. I’ll give him an edge over Holtz and Strong in that regard.

I think his in game coaching sucks. 

Woulda, coulda, shoulda, but if Taggart understood his strength as a recruiter and hired great coordinators to call the games....and if he’d stayed here...he’d have clearly been the best of the three post Leavitt coaches.

[Skingraft]

1 minute ago, Bull94 said:

the guy is 43 years old and has one of the top jobs in all of college coaching. he didn't luck his way there.

maybe FSU is his ceiling but it would be pretty dumb to say that as fact in his 1st game of his 2nd season

And a losing record, and derailed FSUs bowl streak, ect..

[NewEnglandBull]

17 minutes ago, Brad said:

I think Taggart creates a winning culture, just doesn't win games.  He's not a great football coach.  He's a great hype machine and can use that to recruit.  He'd be a great assistant for someone one day.

In other words he is a bullshitter 

[Brad]

Age has nothing to do with it other than he relates better to 18 year olds than the typical grandparent.

He's timing has been great - overall, he's a sub .500 coach.  That's not hall of fame material.  That's almost unemployment line material for most coaches.  He's "turned around" disasters and he's full of charisma and is cashing in. It's been a wonderful life so far.  No regrets.  If he gets ****-canned at FSU, he still comes out ahead.

[puc86]

Just now, SpeedBull said:

I do think that Taggart showed to be a very good recruiter. I’ll give him an edge over Holtz and Strong in that regard.

I think his in game coaching sucks. 

Woulda, coulda, shoulda, but if Taggart understood his strength as a recruiter and hired great coordinators to call the games....and if he’d stayed here...he’d have clearly been the best of the three post Leavitt coaches.

I certainly had hope of that and I felt it was trending that way but as it stands now they are all tied and one good season each in their entire USF careers and CWT had the most opportunities.

[Bull94]

1 minute ago, puc86 said:

Maybe just maybe if he had more than one good season to his name I would be more inclined to call his “success” a complete rebuild. Lots of coaches have flash in the pan seasons sustaining something is the hard part and I’ll hold on the line while I wait for anyone to point to any sustained success from CWT.

so you don't think he rebuilt our program? our 2 best seasons record wise were because of Willie Taggart. Strong stepped into the best situation in the country and completely destroyed us. we lost 41-15 last year at home against Tulane.

[Bull Dozer]

This thread is a symptom of CCS's losing culture. Pointing the finger at others for your own failings is a hallmark of losing culture. 

[Brad]

His schtick has been to coach at programs where there is no way other than up to take a program.  He's always come in with little downside.  Oregon or FSU, either would have been fun to watch.

[puc86]

1 minute ago, Skingraft said:

And a losing record, and derailed FSUs bowl streak, ect..

Lost twice with a 99% chance to win. Managed to have the only losses following 18 point second half point leads twice even though no other coach managed that in the history of the program. Has FSU seriously considering a $17 million buyout. The accomplishments never end.

[SpeedBull]

1 minute ago, NewEnglandBull said:

In other words he is a bullshitter 

Every organization needs two sides....Sales and Operations. Willie is a salesman....he needs great operations managers (coaches and coordinators).

He could have been great here for a long time had he stayed. We were on the verge and he left. Can’t blame him for the great opportunities he’s gotten, although I wish he’d stayed here.