Bull Dozer Posted September 4, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 343 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted September 4, 2018 59 minutes ago, DELdaBull said: This game will tell us a lot and not enough. We suck until we don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullyPulpit Posted September 4, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 365 Content Count: 6,466 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 35 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 4, 2018 18 hours ago, Rocky Style said: As long as the tackling is not Elon levels of sharpness, we should be good. I worried about some of their runs gashing us majorly. I have seen the run defense Elon game cited as reason for concern against GT. While stopping the run is tantamount against GT, I didn't see anything from the guys that will actually be playing significant minutes against GT that would cause me to be more concerned than a would be against the triple option. Up until the point the game was out of hand (31-0) Elon had a total of 29 rushes for 64 yards (2.2 ypc). 43 of those yards came on the first drive of the game (9 for 43, 4.78 ypc). After the opening drive, we held Elon to 21 yards on 20 carries (1.05 ypc). Once our guys woke up, we shut them down completely. It wasn't until Elon brought in their mobile QB against out 3rd and 4th stringers that they found any real success on the ground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFAN1 Posted September 4, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 27 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, BullyPulpit said: I have seen the run defense Elon game cited as reason for concern against GT. While stopping the run is tantamount against GT, I didn't see anything from the guys that will actually be playing significant minutes against GT that would cause me to be more concerned than a would be against the triple option. Up until the point the game was out of hand (31-0) Elon had a total of 29 rushes for 64 yards (2.2 ypc). 43 of those yards came on the first drive of the game (9 for 43, 4.78 ypc). After the opening drive, we held Elon to 21 yards on 20 carries (1.05 ypc). Once our guys woke up, we shut them down completely. It wasn't until Elon brought in their mobile QB against out 3rd and 4th stringers that they found any real success on the ground. I can all but guarantee GT runs the ball 10 times as effective as Elon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted September 4, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, GTFAN1 said: I can all but guarantee GT runs the ball 10 times as effective as Elon. and I can all but guarantee that our defense will be better stopping the run. Will it be enough? That’s why they play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullyPulpit Posted September 4, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 365 Content Count: 6,466 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 35 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, GTFAN1 said: I can all but guarantee GT runs the ball 10 times as effective as Elon. That's all you have, I wouldn't expect anything less. My point was not directed at you, but rather the Bulls fans that have expressed displeasure over our run defense. The numbers became inflated when we brought in the true freshman. The same holds true for USF when you pointed out that there were guys on the field for GT that probably won't be there on Saturday. Our third and fourth stringers essentially gave up all of the rushing yards. The game is going to be close on Saturday. I see many of your fans predicting a 14+ point win. Not quite sure what that is based upon other than fandom. I think the real reason is that a loss to us and you have to accept the fact that you are looking at another 5 or 6 loss season. Beat us and you can hope for a 9-3 campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFAN1 Posted September 4, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 27 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 28 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: and I can all but guarantee that our defense will be better stopping the run. Will it be enough? That’s why they play the game. I agree y’all will definitely be better at stopping the run. Believe it or not fast ILB give us a ton of trouble, not sure if y’all have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFAN1 Posted September 4, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 27 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, BullyPulpit said: That's all you have, I wouldn't expect anything less. My point was not directed at you, but rather the Bulls fans that have expressed displeasure over our run defense. The numbers became inflated when we brought in the true freshman. The same holds true for USF when you pointed out that there were guys on the field for GT that probably won't be there on Saturday. Our third and fourth stringers essentially gave up all of the rushing yards. The game is going to be close on Saturday. I see many of your fans predicting a 14+ point win. Not quite sure what that is based upon other than fandom. I think the real reason is that a loss to us and you have to accept the fact that you are looking at another 5 or 6 loss season. Beat us and you can hope for a 9-3 campaign. Ok, so calm down I was just making a statement. I wasn’t bashing y’all by any means if that’s what you though. Sometime people make statements and it’s just that, a statement. Also some are predicting a 14+ point win but your fans predicting over a 20 point win for y’all. And what your saying is, if we lose to y’all we may win 5 or 6 but if we win it could be 9? What about what’s in between? I didn’t know losing a game week 2 could cause you to lose other games you would otherwise win if you won week 2. Edited September 4, 2018 by GTFAN1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted September 4, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 343 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, GTFAN1 said: I agree y’all will definitely be better at stopping the run. Believe it or not fast ILB give us a ton of trouble, not sure if y’all have one? Khalid Mcgee would fit that description. He's a converted safety and plays like it. If you guys let him run around and do his thing he will create havoc. He's obviously on the lighter side but he's often fast enough and good enough at diagnosing plays that he can use his speed to be very disruptive. We haven't played a true power run team since he's converted so it will be interesting seeing how he deals with a physical option attack Edited September 4, 2018 by Bull Dozer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFAN1 Posted September 4, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 27 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bull Dozer said: Khalid Mcgee would fit that description. He's converted safety and plays like it. If you guys let him run around and do his thing he will create havoc. He's obviously on the lighter side but he's often fast enough and good enough at diagnosing plays that he can use his speed to be very disruptive. We haven't played a true power run team since he's converted so it will be interesting seeing how he deals with a physical option attack Duke had a guy a couple years ago named cash, he was a safety but they played him in the box and he wrecked havoc on us. The big thing is will they play him in the middle or outside? We can generally get to guys better if they are OLB with our OT or a pulling guard. The MLB hurts us because if they are fast and athletic it’s hard for our center to reach them in time because it has to be done so fast compared to an OLB where the play might be longer developing for our OG or OT to get a hat on them. The other big thing is diagnosing the play and not biting on miss direction. GT will run the same play with multiple blocking schemes, so it can be difficult to really know where the ball is going, in doing this you might think it’s a different play than it really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullrush33 Posted September 4, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 85 Content Count: 3,805 Reputation: 792 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2008 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, BullyPulpit said: I have seen the run defense Elon game cited as reason for concern against GT. While stopping the run is tantamount against GT, I didn't see anything from the guys that will actually be playing significant minutes against GT that would cause me to be more concerned than a would be against the triple option. Up until the point the game was out of hand (31-0) Elon had a total of 29 rushes for 64 yards (2.2 ypc). 43 of those yards came on the first drive of the game (9 for 43, 4.78 ypc). After the opening drive, we held Elon to 21 yards on 20 carries (1.05 ypc). Once our guys woke up, we shut them down completely. It wasn't until Elon brought in their mobile QB against out 3rd and 4th stringers that they found any real success on the ground. I did. I saw DTs getting no push. I saw Khalid and sawtelle taking terrible angles. DEs getting pancaked and it and looked pretty similar to Temple 2 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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