Ned A Starr RIP Posted July 31, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 3,497 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 9 Joined: 09/25/2013 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, John Lewis said: Very true. There is also plenty of opportunity to have other events held in the stadium outside of football. Why would event choose USF OCS instead of RJS? How has the Sun Dome done (USF) monetarily wise from it’s outside events. Has it met the projections that were made in advance of it’s renovations? Edited July 31, 2018 by NAS Gone to Paradise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned A Starr RIP Posted July 31, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 3,497 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 9 Joined: 09/25/2013 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 hours ago, ECUshoein said: Did you go to the war on I-4 game last year? If you did I think you'd see what he means. No, I went to the 2008 game and vowed to never return. If that’s what you consider to be “the college game day atmosphere”, than thanks but no thanks. I was born and raised in a small college town...and don’t see any comparison in the game day experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted July 31, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,593 Reputation: 10,853 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, ArmyBull said: Ahh Trip, thought you were getting closer to flipping. You agree that student attendance could explode, right? If so you would have to be pretty stubborn to believe that those additional attendees would not turn into future non-student attendees. Actually, I'm a lot closer than what you probably think, but not to completely flipping, more towards ambivalence. I've always said that the student effect was the only real long term positive in building an ocs. Back in the BCS days, I thought all the whining about NEEDING one was total ********. I thought RayJay was just fine for a BCS program, and would be just fine for a P5. Student attendance was up back then, as was overall attendance, all while the football program was just solid, not coming close to winning the conference, save our first BE year. Now, it's painfully obvious that conference affiliation is a bigger driver of attendance than winning/losing and seriously doubt an ocs would do anything to change that .... except, hopefully, with the students. What an ocs would do is further separate the wheat from the chaff. There's no way to get close to the number of season ticket holders with the same amenities available at RayJay in an ocs, for a similar investment. I think you'd be down to mostly your truly hard core USF football fans ... the ones that don't care who we play, where we play or if there is an a/c place to gossip the game away ..... and I'm okay with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted July 31, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,593 Reputation: 10,853 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted July 31, 2018 25 minutes ago, BDYZR said: Piss on them all you want, but they are winning, filling their stadium, getting donations, and increasing their season ticket sales. Just as a point of order, they averaged a little under 37K per game, 7K less than "filling their stadium" ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBull Posted July 31, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 58 Content Count: 1,828 Reputation: 660 Days Won: 12 Joined: 07/09/2015 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 hours ago, BrassBulls12 said: Got to take these out of the comparison. Can't really take in to account stadiums that were built in 1930 and 1950 respectively. That probably was the best they could do and just built from there. But for the record, I don't want Houston's stadium either, the fact that its UCF doesn't bother me, i'm just not surprised they would take that route. Which is exactly the point, right now, this is the best we can do and we can build from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBull Posted July 31, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 58 Content Count: 1,828 Reputation: 660 Days Won: 12 Joined: 07/09/2015 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, NAS Gone to Paradise said: How has the Sun Dome done (USF) monetarily wise from it’s outside events. Has it met the projections that were made in advance of it’s renovations? This is a great question about the Sun Dome. I imagine an OCS could certainly compete price wise and win some events from Ray Jay. Obviously some they would not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T. Posted July 31, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 4,744 Content Count: 37,610 Reputation: 2,337 Days Won: 29 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Triple B said: Just as a point of order, they averaged a little under 37K per game, 7K less than "filling their stadium" ... 83% is a lot better than 47% . . . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T. Posted July 31, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 4,744 Content Count: 37,610 Reputation: 2,337 Days Won: 29 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted July 31, 2018 This is the way I see it . . . I believe a large number of our financial donors are donating because of RayJay. It is a larger number than the die-hard fans that attend games donate. I am afraid that if we build a small average stadium on campus, we could lose those donors. I think our VP could easily talk to them and know the truth. Bottom Line: We do not have enough FANS attending games to trump the DONOR$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellular1 Posted July 31, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 196 Content Count: 6,614 Reputation: 1,781 Days Won: 51 Joined: 07/04/2008 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I just read the whole report and can summarize what wasn't said but is the only thing that matters. Get out of the AAC and into a P5 conference. Start every season with a chance to play for a Natty. (any P5 team that wins all their games makes the playoffs). Play against teams that matter, no offense to Tulsa/Tulane's of the world. That's how you draw 60k+ to a game, because it means something... A 35k seat stadium is a bad idea. If we are stuck in the minors then we stay at RayJay. If we get called up to the show, go with 60k. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted July 31, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sellular1 said: I just read the whole report and can summarize what wasn't said but is the only thing that matters. Get out of the AAC and into a P5 conference. Start every season with a chance to play for a Natty. (any P5 team that wins all their games makes the playoffs). Play against teams that matter, no offense to Tulsa/Tulane's of the world. That's how you draw 60k+ to a game, because it means something... A 35k seat stadium is a bad idea. If we are stuck in the minors then we stay at RayJay. If we get called up to the show, go with 60k. Move to a P5? I am going to blink my eyes and make it happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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