George_Bullnard_Shaw Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 55 Content Count: 6,740 Reputation: 1,743 Days Won: 17 Joined: 11/04/2012 Share Posted November 16, 2014 What happens if we have 10 wins, but each looks like uconn and smu games? We're going to find more teams that bad to play? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersurch Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 66 Content Count: 488 Reputation: 33 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/31/2003 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Who does that? http://youtu.be/h3MOLaXBpcg The bus is in a sinkhole. Does any else agee that we have some pretty cheesy and "premature success" marketing gimicks? This and the billboard claiming we r the big four?? Why cant we just go back to the "blue collar" and "im going to prove everyone wrong" attitude that we use to have?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 553 Content Count: 14,405 Reputation: 434 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted November 16, 2014 People who think CWT will be fired are completely delusional ... (note, I didn't say "should be fired"... I said "will be fired"... "should" implies opinion, "will" implies fact) He will NOT be fired. USF cannot afford to pay for THREE HEAD COACHES AT THE SAME TIME. In 2015, Holtz has one more year of his buyout. Firing CWT means paying HIS buyout... then paying the salary for another coach. It may be ugly... but 4 wins are double last year... and more than Skip's last year... It may not be fast enough for some people... but the team is improving. Harlan is not going to fire CWT when he is making progress, and we can't really afford it anyway. Tell us how much money USF is losing in ticket sales, merchandising, donations, etc. along with intangibles of public opinion, etc.? USF has never made money on football, only about 20 programs do. Are donors going to cough up money next year for this mess or donate more for a change? You have to think outside the box and not just at one cost factor and take into effect that football straight up is a loss leader that's undertaken not for income but for advertising to donors and potential students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soopuh Fly Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 301 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/06/2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Who does that? http://youtu.be/h3MOLaXBpcg The bus is in a sinkhole. Does any else agee that we have some pretty cheesy and "premature success" marketing gimicks? This and the billboard claiming we r the big four?? Why cant we just go back to the "blue collar" and "im going to prove everyone wrong" attitude that we use to have??willie tried that blue collar gimmick with mechanic shirts, remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Who does that? http://youtu.be/h3MOLaXBpcg The bus is in a sinkhole. Does any else agee that we have some pretty cheesy and "premature success" marketing gimicks? This and the billboard claiming we r the big four?? Why cant we just go back to the "blue collar" and "im going to prove everyone wrong" attitude that we use to have?? I just threw up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfgrad84 Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 246 Content Count: 6,348 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 8 Joined: 05/25/2006 Share Posted November 16, 2014 People who think CWT will be fired are completely delusional ... (note, I didn't say "should be fired"... I said "will be fired"... "should" implies opinion, "will" implies fact) He will NOT be fired. USF cannot afford to pay for THREE HEAD COACHES AT THE SAME TIME. In 2015, Holtz has one more year of his buyout. Firing CWT means paying HIS buyout... then paying the salary for another coach. It may be ugly... but 4 wins are double last year... and more than Skip's last year... It may not be fast enough for some people... but the team is improving. Harlan is not going to fire CWT when he is making progress, and we can't really afford it anyway. You are probably correct about needing to keep Taggart on board, but although the win total has improved, the overall team play has not improved and is probably regressing. With the expectation that attendance is going to be a disaster, the smart thing would be to use the BE buyout money and retire Holtz' salary obligation in one payment, move Taggart out and start the program moving in a positive direction. I don't think it will happen, but that is what should happen. Depends what Harlan is dealing with in respect to the donors and fundraising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deters- Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 67 Content Count: 3,749 Reputation: 309 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/22/2008 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Fire him and do it now. Tonight was the final straw for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emrober5 Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 17 Content Count: 1,011 Reputation: 240 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/06/2011 Share Posted November 16, 2014 R.I.P Willie Taggart (2013-2014) As shocked as I was that USF lost to McNeese State to open the Willie Taggart era, its become clear after the Bulls 14-13 win at winless SMU that this Bulls team has gotten worse since their first loss to an FCS team. Don't be fooled by the score - this team is bad, historically bad. Coach Taggart has shown an inability to develop players, specifically quarterbacks, and his stubbornness to stick with an offensive gameplan that doesn't mesh with his personnel will ultimately be his downfall. Scoring 14 points against the worst defense in FBS is the latest in a long line of offensively embarrassing performances Bulls fans have seen over the last two years. Taggart was hired to turn the program around after Skip Holtz's departure, but instead has driven the Bulls to new lows. Every SMU opponent has scored at least 38 points this season, except for the Bulls. No matter what quarterback Taggart has put on the field this year each has been inept. The common denominator is Willie Taggart. While many Taggart supporters, at least those that are left, will say USF cannot afford to pay off another coach. But with a weak 2015 home schedule and no hope of any improvement for next season Athletic Director Mark Harlan will have to weigh how much money will be lost by retaining Taggart as USF encounters a rapidly shrinking fan base. On its current path USF will have to begin to worry about meeting FBS requirements for attendance or face relegation later in the decade to the FCS sub-division. USF doesn't have the generations of fans that many other schools have that will stick around for a long stretch of lean years. While the idea of being forced to FCS seems impossible, so were the prospects of losing to McNeese State and SMU. Having Willie Taggart as head coach has taught us all that anything can happen and its usually bad. I have A LOT of problems with Taggart, but he completely changed the offense for flowers. All shotgun, QB draws, triple option etc. If Flowers continues to play our offense will look nothing like what we see with White/Bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarling Bull Posted November 16, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 35 Content Count: 6,574 Reputation: 237 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/19/2006 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Fire him and do it now. Tonight was the final straw for me. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 People who think CWT will be fired are completely delusional ... (note, I didn't say "should be fired"... I said "will be fired"... "should" implies opinion, "will" implies fact) He will NOT be fired. USF cannot afford to pay for THREE HEAD COACHES AT THE SAME TIME. In 2015, Holtz has one more year of his buyout. Firing CWT means paying HIS buyout... then paying the salary for another coach. It may be ugly... but 4 wins are double last year... and more than Skip's last year... It may not be fast enough for some people... but the team is improving. Harlan is not going to fire CWT when he is making progress, and we can't really afford it anyway. Tell us how much money USF is losing in ticket sales, merchandising, donations, etc. along with intangibles of public opinion, etc.? USF has never made money on football, only about 20 programs do. Are donors going to cough up money next year for this mess or donate more for a change? You have to think outside the box and not just at one cost factor and take into effect that football straight up is a loss leader that's undertaken not for income but for advertising to donors and potential students. Donors already had to cough up to get Taggart... hard to go back and ask them to pay to get rid of him... especially when we have to start paying "full cost of attendance" for student athletes. Sorry, but USF has to factor the costs... and weigh it against the improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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