Who'sYourData? Posted October 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Taggart is in a tough situation right now. White - 2 star QB that was ranked 79th in the country in High School - He's just not getting it done. Yeah when Andre gets wide open he finds him but otherwise he's just awful. He doesn't see the field well, and his accuracy overall is awful. At this point I don't think he can go back to him. Bench - 3 star QB that was ranked 58th in the country in High School - He was destined to ride the bench for 4 years at Penn State so he came here. Just like White he has been up and down when he has hit the field. He has shown some flashes at times, but at other times he has looked just as bad as White. Flowers - 4 star ATHLETE. Half of the recruiting websites don't even consider him to be a QB prospect. We saw why when he came in and starting throwing interceptions right away. He may techinally be a "4-Star" but he is obviously not close to being ready yet and is way too raw to expect a high level of play. Wilson - Redshirt Freshman walk-on that has had zero time with the 1st team, and probebly almost no time with the 2nd team either. If we are expecting a walk-on QB to do anything then we are in trouble. Taggart has been recruiting extremely well overall since he got here, but if he doesn't find a QB by 2015, he is doomed. The scary thing is that if you look at the prospects at QB for next year, only 13 of the top 100 QB's are uncommitted still, and the only one we have is Kean, whose only other offers have been from MAC and D-2 schools. According to ESPN Recruiting, White was a 3-star, ranked as 37th at QB-PP. Mike has the tools, so I'm not sure why you're attaching "awful" to those attributes. What is fair to say awful about is his head game. For what it's worth, Taggart recruited Brandon Doughty at WKU, and look at how the kid is doing this year (he was a 3 star, 74th ranked QB). 3rd in the nation in throwing yards and TD throws. He had two full years to develop as back up, and began starting as a junior. White's accuracy has been awful. He is 123rd out of 126 QB's in terms of accuracy. Nobody can defend that. Go to Scout and he was the 78th overall QB. 37th Pocket Passer is nothing, especially at a time when in College Football you need someone who is a Duel Threat. The only Pocket Passers that end up doing anything these days are the best of the best and that's it. And no he doesn't see the field well at all. He makes his 1st read and if that isn't there he either takes a sack, or just throws the ball away. Our running backs this year have 15 receptions. TOTAL. There are 60 Running backs in the country that have more receptions then that on their own. If you don't even have 1 reception per half by your running back then your going to lose a lot of games. White has absolutely no idea where his check down is when nothing is there, and he hasn't gotten better at finding those guys. Not to defend White, who I liked early in his college career but have since changed my mind, but from memory of game replays I don't remember seeing a lot of RB/FB or other check downs since they are usually in blocking and don't release. You liked White early in his college career because White's first game is the only game that Taggart simplified the game plan. Shockingly, the offense performed much better that game. Naturally Taggart immediately went back to the "normal" offense the next game so White could develop. I think CWT missed a lesson, but maybe it's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm101 Posted October 29, 2014 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 6,952 Reputation: 2,226 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Taggart is in a lose-lose. Name White and people will say Bench didn't get a fair shake and Taggart is stubborn. Name Bench and people will say Taggart was once again wrong about his QBs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCBull Posted October 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 112 Content Count: 8,159 Reputation: 864 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/25/2008 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Smoke and mirrors. $20 says White starts. Any takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted October 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Taggart is in a tough situation right now. White - 2 star QB that was ranked 79th in the country in High School - He's just not getting it done. Yeah when Andre gets wide open he finds him but otherwise he's just awful. He doesn't see the field well, and his accuracy overall is awful. At this point I don't think he can go back to him. Bench - 3 star QB that was ranked 58th in the country in High School - He was destined to ride the bench for 4 years at Penn State so he came here. Just like White he has been up and down when he has hit the field. He has shown some flashes at times, but at other times he has looked just as bad as White. Flowers - 4 star ATHLETE. Half of the recruiting websites don't even consider him to be a QB prospect. We saw why when he came in and starting throwing interceptions right away. He may techinally be a "4-Star" but he is obviously not close to being ready yet and is way too raw to expect a high level of play. Wilson - Redshirt Freshman walk-on that has had zero time with the 1st team, and probebly almost no time with the 2nd team either. If we are expecting a walk-on QB to do anything then we are in trouble. Taggart has been recruiting extremely well overall since he got here, but if he doesn't find a QB by 2015, he is doomed. The scary thing is that if you look at the prospects at QB for next year, only 13 of the top 100 QB's are uncommitted still, and the only one we have is Kean, whose only other offers have been from MAC and D-2 schools. According to ESPN Recruiting, White was a 3-star, ranked as 37th at QB-PP. Mike has the tools, so I'm not sure why you're attaching "awful" to those attributes. What is fair to say awful about is his head game. For what it's worth, Taggart recruited Brandon Doughty at WKU, and look at how the kid is doing this year (he was a 3 star, 74th ranked QB). 3rd in the nation in throwing yards and TD throws. He had two full years to develop as back up, and began starting as a junior. White's accuracy has been awful. He is 123rd out of 126 QB's in terms of accuracy. Nobody can defend that. Go to Scout and he was the 78th overall QB. 37th Pocket Passer is nothing, especially at a time when in College Football you need someone who is a Duel Threat. The only Pocket Passers that end up doing anything these days are the best of the best and that's it. And no he doesn't see the field well at all. He makes his 1st read and if that isn't there he either takes a sack, or just throws the ball away. Our running backs this year have 15 receptions. TOTAL. There are 60 Running backs in the country that have more receptions then that on their own. If you don't even have 1 reception per half by your running back then your going to lose a lot of games. White has absolutely no idea where his check down is when nothing is there, and he hasn't gotten better at finding those guys. Not to defend White, who I liked early in his college career but have since changed my mind, but from memory of game replays I don't remember seeing a lot of RB/FB or other check downs since they are usually in blocking and don't release. You liked White early in his college career because White's first game is the only game that Taggart simplified the game plan. Shockingly, the offense performed much better that game. Naturally Taggart immediately went back to the "normal" offense the next game so White could develop. I think CWT missed a lesson, but maybe it's just me. me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted October 29, 2014 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,539 Reputation: 10,818 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Taggart is in a lose-lose. Name White and people will say Bench didn't get a fair shake and Taggart is stubborn. Name Bench and people will say Taggart was once again wrong about his QBs. The real judging will be based on the production of whoever he chooses, not the choice itself ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatDaddyBull Posted October 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 34 Content Count: 2,166 Reputation: 225 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/09/2012 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Taggart is in a lose-lose. Name White and people will say Bench didn't get a fair shake and Taggart is stubborn. Name Bench and people will say Taggart was once again wrong about his QBs. The real judging will be based on the production of whoever he chooses, not the choice itself ... Unfortunately I think that's a lose-lose also. I don't see either of the two playing particularly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted October 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 601 Content Count: 16,342 Reputation: 2,875 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Just start Bench in 1st half then pull him and put in White in 2nd half if Bench does not play well. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltLiquorBull Posted October 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 96 Content Count: 4,074 Reputation: 1,383 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/09/2006 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Just start Bench in 1st half then pull him and put in White in 2nd half if Bench does not play well. Problem solved. That might work. The first half will be more of a challenge with no Davis available to catch passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls On Parade Posted October 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 10,199 Reputation: 1,714 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/02/2005 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I agree Bench first half and White second half. Then wildcard Flowers at any point other qb looks to be getting in groove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted October 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I still chuckle when I read debates regarding who's starting this weekend. You guys are fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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