Bull94 Posted December 8, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I put the illegal procedures and illegal shifts on the coaching staff. They get play calls in so slow that White panics to get the snap off before everyone is set. I think that gets cleaned up with experience. Most of the holding calls are lack of talent. If you are getting blown away at the line if scrimmage you reach because you are out of position. If talent improves that will get cleaned up if talent or performance improves. If not then it won't. It is the dumb ones like a few of Sager's personal fouls and Lynch's offsides where discipline is necessary and we have seen Taggart pull them both out. agreed except for the motion penalties being on the coaches(other than they might have used it less often knowing there were difficulties). we didn't see a lot of those on the other QBs. I think it's just White needing to gain experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted December 8, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted December 8, 2013 FAILURE TO RECRUIT SMART FOOTBALL PLAYERS COACHT WILL HAVE 2 MORE YEARS GOOD LUCK TO HIM he better get a real qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherapyBull Posted December 8, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 38 Content Count: 197 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/26/2011 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I hope I am wrong but I do not see this as a recruiting or "not his players issue". Its coaching, blaming this on stupid recruits from another coach seems a little far fetched................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowdown Posted December 8, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 993 Reputation: 121 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/2007 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I hope I am wrong but I do not see this as a recruiting or "not his players issue". Its coaching, blaming this on stupid recruits from another coach seems a little far fetched................. its not that they are stupid or not. its that they don't come to practice mentally engaged because they just arent buying in. they aren't really behind Taggar so they don't practice sharp so they don't play sharp. whether that is or isn't truly a problem most on this board couldn't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfgrad84 Posted December 8, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 246 Content Count: 6,348 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 8 Joined: 05/25/2006 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I hope I am wrong but I do not see this as a recruiting or "not his players issue". Its coaching, blaming this on stupid recruits from another coach seems a little far fetched................. its not that they are stupid or not. its that they don't come to practice mentally engaged because they just arent buying in. they aren't really behind Taggar so they don't practice sharp so they don't play sharp. whether that is or isn't truly a problem most on this board couldn't say. If they aren't coming to practice mentally engaged then we don't need to be wasting a scholarship on them. If they don't want to play football for this coach then see ya later. I highly doubt this is the problem with the majority of the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted December 8, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Penalties are very frustrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gismo Posted December 9, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 417 Content Count: 9,688 Reputation: 1,237 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/24/2009 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Penalties are coaching. My suspicion is these types of penalties probably aren't being called or penalized in practice, so the players practice commiting these mistakes, then at game time we end up with 100 penty yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted December 9, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Penalties are coaching. My suspicion is these types of penalties probably aren't being called or penalized in practice, so the players practice commiting these mistakes, then at game time we end up with 100 penty yards. When talking about holding, or false starts, or personal fouls, which are the majority of what is called on our players, your suspicion would be incorrect. Holding penalties happen when the player that should be blocking gets beat. Our o-line gets beaten by their defensive opponent constantly. After a while, it gets frustrating and we start to hold. Same with our secondary in PI. False starts are just lack of concentration and nervousness. Doesn't have anything to do with coaching. Do you really think we coach our players to rough the passer, or get chippy? Those are usually penalties for lack of self-control or frustration. Now motion, that's a little different story ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted December 9, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I hope I am wrong but I do not see this as a recruiting or "not his players issue". Its coaching, blaming this on stupid recruits from another coach seems a little far fetched................. its not that they are stupid or not. its that they don't come to practice mentally engaged because they just arent buying in. they aren't really behind Taggar so they don't practice sharp so they don't play sharp. whether that is or isn't truly a problem most on this board couldn't say. Didn't our penalties dramatically increase as the year went on, as did the number of freshman playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJT Posted December 9, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 124 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/29/2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Actually most of the penalties were committed by upperclassmen like lynch, Q, and D Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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