Who'sYourData? Posted February 23, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted February 23, 2013 In 2011, ESPN offered a new nine-year deal to the Big East worth $1.17 billion or an average of $130 million annually. However, the Big East's presidents voted to turn down the deal that would have earned football members nearly $14 million a year Isn't this pretty much a moot point considering the 16 teams leaving the conference since it was offered? The contract would have been torn up, wouldn't it? Yes and No. Surely, that $1.17 billion deal would have included clauses allowing ESPN to reduce its payment if teams left, just as it would have included clauses for increased payments if new teams were added. But, there is only a limited amount of leeway involved. These modification clauses would not have allowed radical changes, so the reduction in payments that ESPN could have gotten with all those teams bailing out would still mean they would be paying us FAR more than they will under the terms of the contract ratified today. At a certain point the contract would become void. Yes, but there is a bigger factor. With that contract in place, teams would not have wanted to bolt so quickly, and it would have been easier to get quality replacements. Pitt and Syracuse might have bolted to the ACC, or they might have stayed. The money difference would have been minimal, and without getting a big bump in money and stability they would have been jumping to a potentially weaker conference. The B1G would have still taken Rutgers, and there is a good chance that WVU would have still gone to the Big 12. But that might have been all, and you replace those guys with SMU and Houston and you are still in pretty good shape. In a perfect world, the contract would have allowed the Big East to add TCU and maybe Boise and SDSU on the football side while losing only Rutgers. That would have been a superior conference than the ACC in football and basketball. But we'll never know because Pitt torpedo'd the BE since they was already flirting with the ACC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted February 23, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 555 Content Count: 14,415 Reputation: 445 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted February 23, 2013 In 2011, ESPN offered a new nine-year deal to the Big East worth $1.17 billion or an average of $130 million annually. However, the Big East's presidents voted to turn down the deal that would have earned football members nearly $14 million a year Isn't this pretty much a moot point considering the 16 teams leaving the conference since it was offered? The contract would have been torn up, wouldn't it? Yes and No. Surely, that $1.17 billion deal would have included clauses allowing ESPN to reduce its payment if teams left, just as it would have included clauses for increased payments if new teams were added. But, there is only a limited amount of leeway involved. These modification clauses would not have allowed radical changes, so the reduction in payments that ESPN could have gotten with all those teams bailing out would still mean they would be paying us FAR more than they will under the terms of the contract ratified today. At a certain point the contract would become void. Yes, but there is a bigger factor. With that contract in place, teams would not have wanted to bolt so quickly, and it would have been easier to get quality replacements. Pitt and Syracuse might have bolted to the ACC, or they might have stayed. The money difference would have been minimal, and without getting a big bump in money and stability they would have been jumping to a potentially weaker conference. The B1G would have still taken Rutgers, and there is a good chance that WVU would have still gone to the Big 12. But that might have been all, and you replace those guys with SMU and Houston and you are still in pretty good shape. In a perfect world, the contract would have allowed the Big East to add TCU and maybe Boise and SDSU on the football side while losing only Rutgers. That would have been a superior conference than the ACC in football and basketball. But we'll never know because Pitt torpedo'd the BE since they was already flirting with the ACC. You could blame the Pac 12 as much as Pitt. It was their big contract that had Big East schools dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skingraft Posted February 23, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 743 Content Count: 13,357 Reputation: 2,482 Days Won: 63 Joined: 12/11/2006 Share Posted February 23, 2013 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/23/big-east-espn-agree-to-new-tv-deal/ Appears to be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbryan Posted February 23, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 121 Content Count: 4,259 Reputation: 39 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/16/2006 Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) We deserve exactly what we got hanging with the BE. A crappy conference, a crappy athletic department, a crappy hobbit of an AD with crappy and hokey sycophants who love tweeting (read Bill McGillis), yields crappy TV money. Understandable and oh so predictable. We are USF and we have become Bilikens. Can we change our mascot now? Edited February 23, 2013 by hbryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted February 23, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The same price? And they took ESPN when they would be featured on NBC? I wonder how many USF games will actually be on TV vs the internet compared to if they went with NBC. What about a counter offer from NBC? Contact does not allow counter offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted February 23, 2013 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,734 Reputation: 10,960 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted February 23, 2013 We deserve exactly what we got hanging with the BE. A crappy conference, a crappy athletic department, a crappy hobbit of an AD with crappy and hokey sycophants who love tweeting (read Bill McGillis), yields crappy TV money. Understandable and oh so predictable. We are USF and we have become Bilikens. Can we change our mascot now? LOL .... Right, turning down all those invites from the Big 5 these last few years was really stupid. What's funny about your rant is that we didn't deserve the Big East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted February 24, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted February 24, 2013 http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/23/big-east-espn-agree-to-new-tv-deal/ Appears to be done Fat lady ain't sung yet... "The conference’s presidents are expected to vote, and approve, the deal as soon as Monday." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliable Source Posted February 24, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 731 Content Count: 10,367 Reputation: 170 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/15/2008 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Contact does not allow counter offer. Where does everyone get te idea that every Big East game will be regulated online to ESPN3? Nothing being reported suggests that. My points are that there is no indication that we will not have other than Thursday night games, and why is Foxsports1 be any better than NBCSports? I'm seriously not trying to argue, I just don't think that it's a better deal as it stands now, "knowing" what we know. And we wonder why the trophies are misspelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmhatter Posted February 24, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 576 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted February 24, 2013 We deserve exactly what we got hanging with the BE. A crappy conference, a crappy athletic department, a crappy hobbit of an AD with crappy and hokey sycophants who love tweeting (read Bill McGillis), yields crappy TV money. Understandable and oh so predictable. We are USF and we have become Bilikens. Can we change our mascot now? LOL .... Right, turning down all those invites from the Big 5 these last few years was really stupid. What's funny about your rant is that we didn't deserve the Big East. Seriously... we could have had the best prez and Ad in the country and we wouldnt get big 5... We are not wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hem Posted February 24, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 4,663 Reputation: 401 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/24/2012 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Well...f*ck. Let's hope they matched the exposure like the one source is quoted saying. Other than that...hope Aresco is looking to sell the BE name to the C7 for BIG BUCKS that we will get a piece of...maybe we can sell some naming rights to the Sun Dome as well... In the end, what I'm praying for is continued expansion with a way into the ACC at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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