Anyone hear about any stadium updates today?

[Gismo]

3 hours ago, michibull said:

There are a lot of ways to stretch 300mil. First, leave it open at one end zone and reinvest in the rest of the seating areas, next leave the other end zone lower, so you can add to the second level of the grand stand side. Third, do not have the “mini” lower level bowl and build it like a traditional lower bowl. The way they chopped it around, makes it looks “lego” to me. This is just my opinion. Don’t get me wrong, I will be happy just to get something. I just love stadium designs and want us to have a quality stadium with character. 

The second level overhang is a feature I love. It’s uncommon on small stadiums but it’s going to help with the noise and make everyone feel close to the field. 
 

I think it’s a great design. 

It’s going to be a unique and well respected stadium once completed. You guys are hiding from colorless renders. 

[Bull94]

14 hours ago, bull2bull said:

McLane stadium seats 45K, designed by same Populous and cost $266 million.....maybe $350 million in today's $.

Populous with 10K less seating couldn't come up with something similar for $320 million? Instead, we have an FIU, FAU, UCF and any highschool in Tampa skeletal steel support structure going in.

Kelly assured it won't bounce like UCF because it will have preformed concrete seating base (like FSU) but it sure will look like it as you walk up, around and under it. Next they will be telling us we got a great deal on green chainlink fencing and we are going full-UCF on the inside with it.

So it will feel like FSU's Doak as you are sitting but anywhere else it will look like FAU, FIU, UCF. I thought we waited to do it right and learn from their stadiums and not do the quick and dirty?

McLane stadium flyover:

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Not sure you realize the spike in construction costs we had with the great inflation of 2020.

prices of construction materials are up almost 60% from 2014.

That means a $266M stadium now costs roughly $425M.

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[Gismo]

25 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

Not sure you realize the spike in construction costs we had with the great inflation of 2020.

prices of construction materials are up almost 60% from 2014.

That means a $266M stadium now costs roughly $425M.

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They don’t get it becoming they haven’t been close enough to construct to know.

 

A project I was working in 2020 the suppliers were giving quotes on materials that were good for one day only. That’s how fast prices were rising. 

I also remember shipping containers being priced at $17,000

It’s also driving Home insurance rates up around the country because replacement costs are much higher now. 

Edited March 19 by Gismo

[John Lewis]

10 hours ago, Gismo said:

It’s going to be a unique and well respected stadium once completed. You guys are hiding from colorless renders. 

Thanks for posting this.

I was trying to think of what to say to the detractors and your statement was perfect.

[puc86]

2 hours ago, Bull94 said:

Not sure you realize the spike in construction costs we had with the great inflation of 2020.

prices of construction materials are up almost 60% from 2014.

That means a $266M stadium now costs roughly $425M.

FRED Economic Data

FRED.STLOUISFED.ORG

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Producer Price Index by Commodity: Intermediate Demand by Commodity Type: Materials and Components for Construction

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2 hours ago, Gismo said:

They don’t get it becoming they haven’t been close enough to construct to know.

 

A project I was working in 2020 the suppliers were giving quotes on materials that were good for one day only. That’s how fast prices were rising. 

I also remember shipping containers being priced at $17,000

It’s also driving Home insurance rates up around the country because replacement costs are much higher now. 

I fully get that and I am sure others do too, what you are missing is that doesn’t necessarily mean you have to build the stadium at the new price for the same garbage people made fun of for years.

[BDYZR]

I know there’s an engineer out there that could tell us the difference between the renderings and a solid preslab facade as to what the winds do in the seats in the stadium.

[Bull94]

11 minutes ago, puc86 said:

 

I fully get that and I am sure others do too, what you are missing is that doesn’t necessarily mean you have to build the stadium at the new price for the same garbage people made fun of for years.

if they were of the impression that it was needed to be considered for a move to acc or big 12 then yes they needed to.

[puc86]

4 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

if they were of the impression that it was needed to be considered for a move to acc or big 12 then yes they needed to.

There is absolutely no logical reason to believe that, it’s a downgrade that makes zero dollars for the conferences that already have teams playing off campus. It’s as simple as UCF had success with something and they built a stadium, let’s pretend that’s the only way and focus on the stadium part (ignoring everything else) because it’s easier.

Edited March 19 by puc86

[Bull94]

24 minutes ago, puc86 said:

There is absolutely no logical reason to believe that, it’s a downgrade that makes zero dollars for the conferences that already have teams playing off campus. It’s as simple as UCF had success with something and they built a stadium, let’s pretend that’s the only way and focus on the stadium part (ignoring everything else) because it’s easier.

seems to me that the stadium isn't the only thing they have invested in.

we have a new indoor practice facility. I believe a new football center is in the works. They have hired new coaches in both major men's sports. I'm sure there are other upgrades planned as well.

you constantly complain about how we have been left behind and now that they are trying to do something about it you complain about that too. perhaps you should just go be a fan of ucf.

[Grateful Dad]

10 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

perhaps you should just go be a fan of ucf.