Thanks FSU and the College Football Committee

[Mister Armstrong]

1 hour ago, LrdNorman said:

Not reality.  They never played each other.

Not to be disrespectful to the Alabama QB but as of right his talent and knowledge of the game is equal to the Florida States second and third string QBs because of his experience.

[Mister Armstrong]

1 hour ago, Bull94 said:

It just stands to reason(and has been proven over and over again) that a team that moves up in competition will lose more.

Losing more will mean you make the playoffs less often especially now that it's going to 12 teams.

 

Unless you're an SEC TEAM 

[puc86]

1 minute ago, Bull94 said:

how does this year bear that out?

again they changed the rules to include the top ranked g5 team with the expanded playoffs.

it actually benefits them in that fans of all those g5 teams now actually believe they have a shot at winning a national championship.

it will actually get more people to watch and many fans of smaller programs will be pulling for the g5 champ in the playoffs.

No they changed the rule to expand the playoffs, why does it need to be so big when it will require student athletes to play longer for the same rewards and most teams were already disqualified by the teams already in it? Well because fairness and trying to squeeze in one of the little guys that we couldn’t let in when all of these other teams are more deserving but maybe if we just go bigger we can justify it. Oh wait we just realized these teams aren’t qualified and it’s not fair to not have the most qualified teams in the playoffs, sports should be merit based so we should remove the other parts and just go to straight merit, of course the g5 teams have just as great a shot as anyone if they just earn it. You do want things to be fair and for people to get in on merit and not technicalities and quotas, don’t you?

[CousinRicky]

40 minutes ago, smazza said:

what do you watch?

Pretty sure Sellular doesn't want to write "porn" to your question.  

[CousinRicky]

11 minutes ago, puc86 said:

No they changed the rule to expand the playoffs, why does it need to be so big when it will require student athletes to play longer for the same rewards and most teams were already disqualified by the teams already in it? Well because fairness and trying to squeeze in one of the little guys that we couldn’t let in when all of these other teams are more deserving but maybe if we just go bigger we can justify it. Oh wait we just realized these teams aren’t qualified and it’s not fair to not have the most qualified teams in the playoffs, sports should be merit based so we should remove the other parts and just go to straight merit, of course the g5 teams have just as great a shot as anyone if they just earn it. You do want things to be fair and for people to get in on merit and not technicalities and quotas, don’t you?

I reread that a couple of times and still not seeing what you are saying. But please, don't try to explain it with a 7 paragraph answer. I'll suffer through my day trying to figure it out - or not. 

What happened yesterday is just baffling because they excluded a P5 unbeaten team from the playoffs but yet put in Liberty in the NY6 games. So FSU isn't qualified but Liberty is? I realize one is the playoffs and one is a NY6 game but it doesn't seem they applied the same logic to the 2 scenarios.

[Bull94]

26 minutes ago, puc86 said:

No they changed the rule to expand the playoffs, why does it need to be so big when it will require student athletes to play longer for the same rewards and most teams were already disqualified by the teams already in it? Well because fairness and trying to squeeze in one of the little guys that we couldn’t let in when all of these other teams are more deserving but maybe if we just go bigger we can justify it. Oh wait we just realized these teams aren’t qualified and it’s not fair to not have the most qualified teams in the playoffs, sports should be merit based so we should remove the other parts and just go to straight merit, of course the g5 teams have just as great a shot as anyone if they just earn it. You do want things to be fair and for people to get in on merit and not technicalities and quotas, don’t you?

and in doing so they included the top ranked g5 team.

did you know that the ncaa basketball tournament used to be 8 teams?

they expanded to 16 and then 32 and now they are at 64 (or whatever nonsense with play in games).

you do realize that as they added teams they included more and more of the lower conference champs right?

they promote it as march madness. where every d-1 conference champ in the country has a chance to win national championship.

they talk about "cinderella" teams non stop.

if they were still at 8 teams from only "power" conferences almost nobody would watch.

Edited December 4, 2023 by Bull94

[Bull94]

13 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

I reread that a couple of times and still not seeing what you are saying. But please, don't try to explain it with a 7 paragraph answer. I'll suffer through my day trying to figure it out - or not. 

What happened yesterday is just baffling because they excluded a P5 unbeaten team from the playoffs but yet put in Liberty in the NY6 games. So FSU isn't qualified but Liberty is? I realize one is the playoffs and one is a NY6 game but it doesn't seem they applied the same logic to the 2 scenarios.

Liberty was the highest ranked g5 team. If tulane had beaten smu then they would have gone in their place even though tulane already had a loss and liberty was undefeated.

unfortunately when there are only 4 spots and 5 supposed power conferences then someone will be left out. acc conference was by far the weakest

I guess if fsu beats georgia then they can claim a national title like ucf did.

Edited December 4, 2023 by Bull94

[CousinRicky]

Just now, Bull94 said:

Liberty was the highest ranked g5 team. If tulane had beaten smu then they would have gone in their place even though tulane already had a loss.

unfortunately when there are only 4 spots and 5 supposed power conferences then someone will be left out. acc conference was by far the weakest

I get that. But they could have ranked SMU ahead of Liberty based on SOS.

[puc86]

4 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

I reread that a couple of times and still not seeing what you are saying. But please, don't try to explain it with a 7 paragraph answer. I'll suffer through my day trying to figure it out - or not. 

What happened yesterday is just baffling because they excluded a P5 unbeaten team from the playoffs but yet put in Liberty in the NY6 games. So FSU isn't qualified but Liberty is? I realize one is the playoffs and one is a NY6 game but it doesn't seem they applied the same logic to the 2 scenarios.

The action wasn’t to expand the playoffs to the g5 it was to expand the playoffs. 

The G5 part makes an argument for the size of the expansion and appeals to fairness.

The G5 part was important to fairness because it requires more from athletes and if its just the P5 they already settled it in the season and in the conference championship.

The same fairness argument will then be used to remove the G5 because they aren’t qualified and it’s unfair to those that are qualified.

The G5 isn’t losing anything it’s just making it fair for everyone and every year the G5 has top 12 teams they will still get in. 

[jchem1995]

My hope is the Bama QB gets rolled up early like first snap and they have to go to the bench and put in that scrub that played against us and they lose like 110 to 0.