Bull94 Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, puc86 said: Liberty getting in is a Trojan horse to expansion, there is no way anyone can actually expect that to continue just proof that it won't matter who you play. doesn't matter if you think it won't continue. They are playing in a NY6 bowl with the worst strength of schedule (#133) in the country and they would be in the playoffs if/when they go to 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted December 4, 2023 It just stands to reason(and has been proven over and over again) that a team that moves up in competition will lose more. Losing more will mean you make the playoffs less often especially now that it's going to 12 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,266 Reputation: 6,147 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, Bull94 said: just proof that it won't matter who you play. doesn't matter if you think it won't continue. They are playing in a NY6 bowl with the worst strength of schedule (#133) in the country and they would be in the playoffs if/when they go to 12. It does matter entirely; for a single instance and the it would be rectified based on the outrage from the injustice that is letting in these undeserving teams. Every defect that is letting in G5 teams is parched immediately, there is never any outrage about correcting the G5 errors because collectively no one cares about the G5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,266 Reputation: 6,147 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, Bull94 said: It just stands to reason(and has been proven over and over again) that a team that moves up in competition will lose more. Losing more will mean you make the playoffs less often especially now that it's going to 12 teams. Moving up means you get to lose and still make it in over those in conferences that aren’t poaching p4 teams even if you go undefeated and are supposedly in a p4 conference. Everyone in the playoffs are from a poaching conference, if a team like liberty ever actually makes it into the playoffs the rules will be changed immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, puc86 said: It does matter entirely; for a single instance and the it would be rectified based on the outrage from the injustice that is letting in these undeserving teams. Every defect that is letting in G5 teams is parched immediately, there is never any outrage about correcting the G5 errors because collectively no one cares about the G5. it won't be rectified. just look at basketball. they let in conference champs from much smaller "less deserving" leagues every year. in fact that's the reason they are going to 12 teams. so they can be more inclusive. the only way things will change is if the big 10 and sec break off. otherwise there will always be a representative from the g5. Edited December 4, 2023 by Bull94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, puc86 said: Moving up means you get to lose and still make it in over those in conferences that aren’t poaching p4 teams even if you go undefeated and are supposedly in a p4 conference. Everyone in the playoffs are from a poaching conference, if a team like liberty ever actually makes it into the playoffs the rules will be changed immediately. again the rules were changed to include teams like liberty. that's why we're going to 12 teams. there are 5 supposed power conferences and only 4 playoff spots now. someone has to be left out Edited December 4, 2023 by Bull94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,266 Reputation: 6,147 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bull94 said: it won't be rectified. just look at basketball. they let in conference champs from much smaller "less deserving" leagues every year. in fact that's the reason they are going to 12 teams. so they can be more inclusive. the only way things will change is if the big 10 and sec break off. otherwise there will always be a representative from the g5. 4 minutes ago, Bull94 said: again the rules were changed to include teams like liberty. that's why we're going to 12 teams. there are 5 supposed power conferences and only 4 playoff spots now. someone has to be left out Half the teams in FBS vs a tenth of the teams in FBS isn’t the same thing. The rules were changed to allow for the expansion to 12 and not to actually include any teams like Liberty, once it actually happens the fairness argument will pivot to how it’s actually unfair to skip over 11 more deserving teams in order to get to a team skating by to undefeated season by playing a cupcake schedule every other team would have went more than undefeated playing. Are you watching the same movie? This only ends one way and there isn’t some G5 redemption arch that’s finally going to play out for the first time. Most of the time Goliath wins, that’s why no one writes stories about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, puc86 said: Half the teams in FBS vs a tenth of the teams in FBS isn’t the same thing. The rules were changed to allow for the expansion to 12 and not to actually include any teams like Liberty, once it actually happens the fairness argument will pivot to how it’s actually unfair to skip over 11 more deserving teams in order to get to a team skating by to undefeated season by playing a cupcake schedule every other team would have went more than undefeated playing. Are you watching the same movie? This only ends one way and there isn’t some G5 redemption arch that’s finally going to play out for the first time. Most of the time Goliath wins, that’s why no one writes stories about it. You seem to be able to see the future. any lottery advice? as far as I'm aware, the rules state that the highest ranked g5 team makes the playoffs. until that is actually changed, you are wrong. this year Liberty with the #133 ranked schedule would be in the playoffs. Oh and if our conference mate tulane had won their game they would be the ones in the playoffs and the irony is they would have been taken over an undefeated liberty while having one loss. Edited December 4, 2023 by Bull94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted December 4, 2023 15 hours ago, Outlaw said: THE CFB committee is going to kill the ACC just like they killed the pac12. After Texas and Okalahoma leave the b12; the b12 should be rated similar to the ACC where going undefeated does not grant you an automatic playoff bid. as grandma mazza told me when i was a child,"stevie,if your going to be a sucker be a quiet one" fsu agreed to this system and for the life of me i will never understand why 5 power conferences and a 4 team playoff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted December 4, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,266 Reputation: 6,147 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, Bull94 said: You seem to be able to see the future. any lottery advice? as far as I'm aware, the rules state that the highest ranked g5 team makes the playoffs. until that is actually changed, you are wrong. this year Liberty with the #133 ranked schedule would be in the playoffs. The lottery is random chance, this isn’t a random chance event. This is a clear path with a clear pattern that the power brokers aren’t even pretending to have any other possible scenario about. Pattern recognition is one of the few things people are actually good at until we have to invent reasons why you cannot consider the actual pattern. No one can honestly think anyone with the money , spending the money or making the money is going to for the first time consider how do we spread it around to more places for no value to ourselves when everything else we are doing is focused on concentrating that wealth and has resulted in exponential growth for all of us. It just doesn’t make any sense and there isn’t a way anyone could possibly believe it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now