Popular Post Jim Johnson Posted July 30, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,468 Reputation: 1,781 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, michibull said: So, I think Timmy is a fine kid, but I would have to say that I have not seen anything this year to indicate that he will be the greatest QB in USF history (he will probably be sitting on the bench his Sophomore and possibly his Junior years if Gerry stays for his Senior year, so that leaves him one more year playing). While I am not saying it can’t happen, I just don’t see it happening. I did however see clear regression, horrible decision making and game management, which is probably why CJS was looking for a QB to come in a compete. In all honesty, I hope Gerry lives up to the hype and stays his 2 years (I think if he was a one and done kid, he would have gone to a larger school for exposure). I don't see Gerry staying for a sixth season of football... and I think a lot of Timmy mistakes were because the OL had problems with pass protection. Timmy scrambled as well as Grothe and Flowers far too often. I am not sure how you saw a regression when he started (NC State) with two interceptions when USF was in scoring territory... he got better as the season went on, but he made a lot of typical freshman mistakes. Grothe's first full year as a starter he would lock in on one receiver too often ... he learned how to read his progressions. Flower's freshman year he would throw it at the feet of his receivers, especially on sideline passes... he learned how to complete those passes. A year behind Bohannon will be great for Timmy... he was thrown to the wolves because the QB room was so weak last year. Freshmen QBs should nearly always redshirt or at least play limited action. Edited July 30, 2022 by Jim Johnson 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted July 31, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 71 Content Count: 12,358 Reputation: 3,186 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted July 31, 2022 11 hours ago, Jim Johnson said: I don't see Gerry staying for a sixth season of football... and I think a lot of Timmy mistakes were because the OL had problems with pass protection. Timmy scrambled as well as Grothe and Flowers far too often. I am not sure how you saw a regression when he started (NC State) with two interceptions when USF was in scoring territory... he got better as the season went on, but he made a lot of typical freshman mistakes. Grothe's first full year as a starter he would lock in on one receiver too often ... he learned how to read his progressions. Flower's freshman year he would throw it at the feet of his receivers, especially on sideline passes... he learned how to complete those passes. A year behind Bohannon will be great for Timmy... he was thrown to the wolves because the QB room was so weak last year. Freshmen QBs should nearly always redshirt or at least play limited action. The same oline is returning. Gerry B will hopefully help them reach their potential with great QB play. I agree Timmy would really benefit to learn from Gerry. Gerry also is a great option QB and we should start using more option and motion plays to take advantage of the speed we have on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted July 31, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,457 Reputation: 2,841 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Outlaw said: The same oline is returning. Gerry B will hopefully help them reach their potential with great QB play. I agree Timmy would really benefit to learn from Gerry. Gerry also is a great option QB and we should start using more option and motion plays to take advantage of the speed we have on offense. This is my main concern. Hopefully with the combination of a new OC and even more experience they will improve. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted July 31, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 71 Content Count: 12,358 Reputation: 3,186 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted July 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, BDYZR said: This is my main concern. Hopefully with the combination of a new OC and even more experience they will improve. Time will tell. I agree they have experience and size. Maybe GB, Chad Morris advising on offense, and a new oc can help them improve with better schemes and play calling . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanbull Posted July 31, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 295 Content Count: 6,815 Reputation: 1,083 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/23/2001 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Outlaw said: The same oline is returning. Gerry B will hopefully help them reach their potential with great QB play. I agree Timmy would really benefit to learn from Gerry. Gerry also is a great option QB and we should start using more option and motion plays to take advantage of the speed we have on offense. If you look at the Baylor stats you can see that when Bohanon was in sacks diminished, it has to do not only with OL but the QB making quick reads and passes. I think we will see early on the difference as you will probably see both QBs play regardless of who is the starter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted July 31, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 71 Content Count: 12,358 Reputation: 3,186 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, Cubanbull said: If you look at the Baylor stats you can see that when Bohanon was in sacks diminished, it has to do not only with OL but the QB making quick reads and passes. I think we will see early on the difference as you will probably see both QBs play regardless of who is the starter. I watched a lot of his highlights and play from last year, this is why I do not see any way possible Timmy takes the job from him outside of an injury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanbull Posted July 31, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 295 Content Count: 6,815 Reputation: 1,083 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/23/2001 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Outlaw said: I watched a lot of his highlights and play from last year, this is why I do not see any way possible Timmy takes the job from him outside of an injury. Agree. Last year at Baylor Bohanon 9 sacks out of 275 pass attempts= 3.3% Shapen 7 out of 86= 8.1% McClain last year 23 out of 262= 8.8% Edited July 31, 2022 by Cubanbull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted July 31, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 71 Content Count: 12,358 Reputation: 3,186 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Gerry is the biggest beacon of hope for the team this year. Second is a new defense that attacks instead of sits back 5 to 7 yards every play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted July 31, 2022 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,559 Reputation: 10,831 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted July 31, 2022 35 minutes ago, Cubanbull said: Agree. Last year at Baylor Bohanon 9 sacks out of 275 pass attempts= 3.3% Shapen 7 out of 86= 8.1% McClain last year 23 out of 262= 8.8% Even though the percentages are a tiny bit off because you have to add the sack number to the pass attempts, the spirit of the comparison is there. It definitely shows the advantage that maturity at that position can/should have. Personally, I won't mind if GB is a one and done here, handing the reins over to one of the "kids" to allow them to grow into the job. There's no better teacher than experience .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted July 31, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 71 Content Count: 12,358 Reputation: 3,186 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Triple B said: Even though the percentages are a tiny bit off because you have to add the sack number to the pass attempts, the spirit of the comparison is there. It definitely shows the advantage that maturity at that position can/should have. Personally, I won't mind if GB is a one and done here, handing the reins over to one of the "kids" to allow them to grow into the job. There's no better teacher than experience .... To be a one and done he and the team must have a monster year and no one would complain about that. If he could single handedly carry a team with one FBS win in two years on his back , I think the NFL scouts would be watching. Edited July 31, 2022 by Outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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