Guest PCBull14 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Brad said: Couldn’t read more than that silly question, sorry. What do you think got all programs into the Big East and grew the money that built all the facilities? What do you think took USF to its highest level athletically ever? What got USF some national discussion? It wasn’t the oboists down the road. Losing 4-5 and scoring 0 on Rutgers. Edited November 28, 2018 by PCBull14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 28, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, PCBull14 said: Freely admitted(also known as, justifying my stance with a personal situation to back up my point). I can see that was a bad choice on my part. It's my belief in that personal situation I encountered. The blatant racist comments made about a close friend of mine by USF Athletics staff while I interned there... because the individual was from a different country then America. That changed the way I look at many things associated with USF. Another reported incident covered up by the way. I love the Green and Gold but it certainly doesn't have the stranglehold on my heart it used to because of how I and others were treated there. I call it how I see it. Lying SHOULD be grounds for termination, but I don't run the University. I’m not worried about the lie that didn’t lead to anyone getting fired or your personal experience. I’m asking very nicely and patiently for roughly the fourth time what was the lie CJL told that you believe merited instant termination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PCBull14 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, puc86 said: I’m not worried about the lie that didn’t lead to anyone getting fired or your personal experience. I’m asking very nicely and patiently for roughly the fourth time what was the lie CJL told that you believe merited instant termination? Lying about what happened when asked, its not like we all don't know the story. That's really all I have to say and I wish I never brought up anything personal or even commented on this topic. USF fans are still salty over something that their's no reason to be salty about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 28, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, PCBull14 said: Lying about what happened when asked, its not like we all don't know the story. That's really all I have to say and I wish I never brought up anything personal or even commented on this topic. USF fans are still salty over something that their's no reason to be salty about. There are many versions of the story, many of which don’t seem too much like lying. I know it’s shocking but people remember events completely differently and often times completely wrong so it’s not unreasonable for accounts to differ which is why eyewitness testimony is notoriously bad and how dna evidence has led to so many people that were sure being proven wrong. Also doesn’t help that the star victims father ended up being a lying fraudster and the kid ended up being quite the piece of work too (that sadly will never be able to remember things differently), history hasn’t exactly gone the way of the anti-CJL crowd but sadly none seem to be able to look back with 20/20 vision. I’m sorry about you and your friend and the disillusionment it has caused you. CJL didn’t hurt you or your friend and he hasn’t proven to be a violent sociopath as he has done quite well in his time away from us, I wish we had fared so well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 29, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 29, 2018 CCS said that 7-5 wouldn’t be good enough for this year but then said we were lucky to have gone 7-5 and it was good for this group, should he have been fired for lying? CWT said he was going to win with power football and run it down their throats but that didn’t happen, should he have been fired for lying? Coaches constantly say they aren’t looking at other jobs and they are happy where they are but then leave in the middle of the night, should the new employers not hire these known public liars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrassBulls12 Posted November 29, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 399 Content Count: 4,679 Reputation: 517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/03/2017 Share Posted November 29, 2018 sweet hyperbole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted November 29, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Brad said: Just like lies told by Joel Miller to ESPN and the lie that Leavitt said he was “the most powerful man in the building”. It’s whose lies you choose to believe. Had we had a more experienced AD/Prez/Program we could have survived the Miller/McMurphy tales. But in reality, those in power wanted him gone. They didn’t think, at the time, they were killing the golden goose. The last decade suggests they did. Like my wife says, "All they needed to do was 'suspend' him an order sensitivity training if they really wanted to keep him." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted November 29, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, DELdaBull said: Like my wife says, "All they needed to do was 'suspend' him an order sensitivity training if they really wanted to keep him." My wife said, “Is he the guy with the hair?” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted November 29, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted November 29, 2018 41 minutes ago, puc86 said: CCS said that 7-5 wouldn’t be good enough for this year but then said we were lucky to have gone 7-5 and it was good for this group, should he have been fired for lying? CWT said he was going to win with power football and run it down their throats but that didn’t happen, should he have been fired for lying? Coaches constantly say they aren’t looking at other jobs and they are happy where they are but then leave in the middle of the night, should the new employers not hire these known public liars? Point of order, he said 7-6 wouldn't be good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 29, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,158 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Apis Bull said: Point of order, he said 7-6 wouldn't be good enough. **** I lied, I am fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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