Paisa el Toro Posted October 7, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 132 Content Count: 10,380 Reputation: 1,058 Days Won: 18 Joined: 08/11/2003 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I love the hardcore fan base we currently have. They're the ones that make going to away games that much better; the camaraderie with those folks is fantastic. Now we need to get more fans developed for our home games. Administration has to get on board, and coordinate with professors to ensure that exams can be avoided on game nights, the professors help promote games during game weeks, etc. Athletics needs to reach out to the local media to help create a connection between USF athletics and Tampa Bay. All this takes time, but we need to do something to shift the USF culture around Tampa Bay. Currently, it's rather mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted October 7, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted October 7, 2017 39 minutes ago, Paisa el Toro said: I love the hardcore fan base we currently have. They're the ones that make going to away games that much better; the camaraderie with those folks is fantastic. Now we need to get more fans developed for our home games. Administration has to get on board, and coordinate with professors to ensure that exams can be avoided on game nights, the professors help promote games during game weeks, etc. Athletics needs to reach out to the local media to help create a connection between USF athletics and Tampa Bay. All this takes time, but we need to do something to shift the USF culture around Tampa Bay. Currently, it's rather mediocre. Nationally, many professors hate college sports and football in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted October 7, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 hours ago, NewEnglandBull said: 3 hours ago, Paisa el Toro said: I love the hardcore fan base we currently have. They're the ones that make going to away games that much better; the camaraderie with those folks is fantastic. Now we need to get more fans developed for our home games. Administration has to get on board, and coordinate with professors to ensure that exams can be avoided on game nights, the professors help promote games during game weeks, etc. Athletics needs to reach out to the local media to help create a connection between USF athletics and Tampa Bay. All this takes time, but we need to do something to shift the USF culture around Tampa Bay. Currently, it's rather mediocre. Nationally, many professors hate college sports and football in particular. Wussies! There is SO MUCH MORE to college than academics. Otherwise we could all just do our degrees online. Clubs, sports, activities, SG, etc are all equally valuable, and in the case of many BS courses, even more so. I start every Monday class with time for the students to make announcements, and make special arrangements with any athlete that needs it. We need the equivalent of the Ice Bucket Challenge to get them publicly on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted October 7, 2017 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,012 Reputation: 10,814 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted October 7, 2017 On 10/5/2017 at 5:01 AM, BullFan98 said: I also appreciate USF football, but do not think we are spoiled. In 20 years we have not won a conference championship. Lets hope and keep fingers crossed this is the year, then again I hope for this every year. The further you move down the food chain, the less a conference championship means. I would rather beat Alabama. (yes, that argument again ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted October 7, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted October 7, 2017 20 minutes ago, charsibb said: Wussies! There is SO MUCH MORE to college than academics. Otherwise we could all just do our degrees online. Clubs, sports, activities, SG, etc are all equally valuable, and in the case of many BS courses, even more so. I start every Monday class with time for the students to make announcements, and make special arrangements with any athlete that needs it. We need the equivalent of the Ice Bucket Challenge to get them publicly on board. I agree. I have one colleague who is terrible. Every time I see him one can tell he was never picked to play for a team when he was younger. A total jerk towards the athletes in general and athletics specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullFan98 Posted October 9, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 258 Content Count: 7,780 Reputation: 328 Days Won: 7 Joined: 08/13/2010 Share Posted October 9, 2017 On 10/7/2017 at 12:14 PM, Brad said: The further you move down the food chain, the less a conference championship means. I would rather beat Alabama. (yes, that argument again ) Didn't we beat UAB (Blazers) , but I believe we also lost to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCBull Posted October 9, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 112 Content Count: 8,159 Reputation: 864 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/25/2008 Share Posted October 9, 2017 On 10/7/2017 at 12:14 PM, NewEnglandBull said: I agree. I have one colleague who is terrible. Every time I see him one can tell he was never picked to play for a team when he was younger. A total jerk towards the athletes in general and athletics specifically. Well, academics will be academically-focused; that's natural. Not natural to be a jerk to athletes, and no excuse for it. Nonetheless, it's unreasonable to ask professors to change their policies for football games. The reason our alma mater exists is for academics, not football attendance. Academics > athletics, always. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCBull Posted October 9, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 112 Content Count: 8,159 Reputation: 864 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/25/2008 Share Posted October 9, 2017 On 10/7/2017 at 11:51 AM, charsibb said: Wussies! There is SO MUCH MORE to college than academics. Otherwise we could all just do our degrees online. Clubs, sports, activities, SG, etc are all equally valuable, and in the case of many BS courses, even more so. I start every Monday class with time for the students to make announcements, and make special arrangements with any athlete that needs it. We need the equivalent of the Ice Bucket Challenge to get them publicly on board. Agree that college is about a lot more than academics. But academics steers the ship and always should. Read your university's mission statement and it's plain as day. Athletics are fantastic, no doubt; but academics is the core of any university, for good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted October 9, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted October 9, 2017 38 minutes ago, NCBull said: Well, academics will be academically-focused; that's natural. Not natural to be a jerk to athletes, and no excuse for it. Nonetheless, it's unreasonable to ask professors to change their policies for football games. The reason our alma mater exists is for academics, not football attendance. Academics > athletics, always. I agree in principle with what you are saying. Academics always, always come first. It’s just this guy chaps my ass with his condescending attitude toward college sports. I don’t support changing exams, but I know some of my students would probably not be in college if it was not athletics. The guy I am speaking of just does not understand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted October 9, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) On 10/7/2017 at 11:51 AM, charsibb said: Wussies! There is SO MUCH MORE to college than academics. Otherwise we could all just do our degrees online. Clubs, sports, activities, SG, etc are all equally valuable, and in the case of many BS courses, even more so. I start every Monday class with time for the students to make announcements, and make special arrangements with any athlete that needs it. We need the equivalent of the Ice Bucket Challenge to get them publicly on board. As someone who was once a student-athlete and is now on the other side of the equation, I will NEVER make special arrangements with athletes other than test scheduling for classes they miss due to games. It's not fair to the student-athlete and it's not fair to the other students. 99.9% of athletes aren't going to make their living from their sport and if they walk off campus with a ******** degree just because they can run fast or hit a ball, I haven't done my job. No one is making special arrangements for the kid who has to work 40 hours a week at Publix to pay for school, so athletes should be held to the same standard. You're absolutely right that college is about more than academics. It's about time management, learning priorities, juggling deadlines, you know, the skills that the real world require to succeed. Edited October 9, 2017 by JTrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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