JTrue Posted October 27, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) I think everyone here believes in right and wrong. The question is how you make that judgement and whether you accept that there are degrees of rightness and wrongness. Haven't seen any posts that suggest otherwise. So what is the threshold you'd like to see for the possession of illegal prescription medicine? 5 pills or less is no penalty, move along? 10? 50? Or do you believe what he was caught with shouldn't be against the law at all? Personally, I draw a pretty firm line in the sand between someone deciding to smoke and popping pills. One is, for the most part, no different than drinking, which is completely legal. The other is a whole different ballgame. In order to possess those pills, there are really only a few scenarios:1) Someone actually needs them and decided to sell them instead of taking them. Not good.2) Someone scammed their doctor into getting them with intent to sell. Not good either.3) Someone stole them from someone who needs them. Also, not good.4) Someone stole them from the pharmacy they work at, then sold them. Still not good.5) Someone forged a prescription to get them. Again, not good. Edited October 27, 2015 by JTrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWMJD Posted October 27, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 93 Content Count: 3,048 Reputation: 316 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/24/2005 Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) So what is the threshold you'd like to see for the possession of illegal prescription medicine? 5 pills or less is no penalty, move along? 10? 50? Or do you believe what he was caught with shouldn't be against the law at all? Personally, I draw a pretty firm line in the sand between someone deciding to smoke and popping pills. One is, for the most part, no different than drinking, which is completely legal. The other is a whole different ballgame. In order to possess those pills, there are really only a few scenarios:1) Someone actually needs them and decided to sell them instead of taking them. Not good.2) Someone scammed their doctor into getting them with intent to sell. Not good either.3) Someone stole them from someone who needs them. Also, not good.4) Someone stole them from the pharmacy they work at, then sold them. Still not good.5) Someone forged a prescription to get them. Again, not good.Without getting into a debate about the propriety of various mind-altering substances vs others (although there's plenty out there suggesting that the legal stuff you are discussing is way more harmful than many illegal alternatives), I would just ask that we recognize that there are degrees of going astray, and that we not react like this kid is some sort of drug kingpin or violent criminal. As to your specific question at the top of your post, I don't think the possession of any drug for personal use should be a felony (in FL that encompasses a serious crime punishable by more than one year in prison all the way up to death). But while that's related, it's really a different issue. Edited October 27, 2015 by WWMJD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted October 27, 2015 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted October 27, 2015 What about rich white guys that don't pay taxes, should they be treated like violent criminals? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan Posted October 27, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 83 Content Count: 1,720 Reputation: 207 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/11/2011 Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) I hate to admit it, but this was also my first thought.... I've been pulled over a few times in my college career for no reason. I allowed cops to search my car (not knowing my rights and cause I was nervous). Of course I was clean though. Edited October 27, 2015 by Leviathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky the Bull Posted October 27, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,036 Content Count: 7,523 Reputation: 1,130 Days Won: 10 Joined: 12/25/2001 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I prefer the Chris Rock video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000bull Posted October 27, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 83 Content Count: 7,048 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 11 Joined: 06/04/2009 Share Posted October 27, 2015 If you smoked it, would it really be there still?the smell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullrush33 Posted October 27, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 85 Content Count: 3,808 Reputation: 793 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2008 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Lets be honest being a first time offender he probably will get some diversion program so this will be a wash. If he test positive for marijuana I believe the NCAA has a suspension policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted October 27, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,475 Reputation: 2,855 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Where does drug testing fit into this whole discussion? I know pot shows up, does Xanax? What are the testing rules in FL.? Random? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmhatter Posted October 27, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 576 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted October 27, 2015 The law is the law until its not.If you're carrying around xanax and you don't have a prescription... that's illegal and you face whatever the law states you face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWMJD Posted October 27, 2015 Group: Member Topic Count: 93 Content Count: 3,048 Reputation: 316 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/24/2005 Share Posted October 27, 2015 The law is the law until its not.If you're carrying around xanax and you don't have a prescription... that's illegal and you face whatever the law states you face.Does your post actually address anything that was posted in this thread or is this just a mindless ramble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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