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Its Time to Turn the Page on Willie Taggart

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Yeah, because the coaching ability of Holtz and Taggart has ZERO to do with on field performance.

 

Give me a break.

 

 

There you go again.  That has absolutely NOTHING to do with ANYTHING either you, or I, or anyone said.  The coaching abilities of Holtz and Taggart, and on field performance is a completely different argument than whether or not a roster was stocked at the beginning Holtz or Taggart's time here.

 

Nice try. 

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Since we got in late from the game last night it is hard to catch up on all the posts.  Taggart is horrendous.  He starts a kid that isn't ready at QB.  How much was he not ready? Had about 16 plays o

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People who think CWT will be fired are completely delusional ... (note, I didn't say "should be fired"... I said "will be fired"... "should" implies opinion, "will" implies fact)   He will NOT be fi

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Taggart = great recruiter and great RB coach As far as a head coach goes, I'm still not seeing it Have no problem being wrong, but he has not shown that he can get a team ready

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Yeah, because the coaching ability of Holtz and Taggart has ZERO to do with on field performance.

 

Give me a break.

 

 

There you go again.  That has absolutely NOTHING to do with ANYTHING either you, or I, or anyone said.  The coaching abilities of Holtz and Taggart, and on field performance is a completely different argument than whether or not a roster was stocked at the beginning Holtz or Taggart's time here.

 

Nice try. 

 

 

He's good. Never should have given him that opening with the record comparison ....

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Joel Miller had 11 catches at WR in Holtz' first year.  Is he one of the stud WRs that Leavitt left behind for Holtz?  Or were you referring to walk-on QB Bobby Eveld as one of the studs of the "stacked team" Leavitt left him?

 

Seriously, did Taggart sleep with your sister or something.  You're so far beyond delusional its probably a waste for me to even bother, but Leavitt left a WR corp of Sterling Griffin, Dontavia Bogan, AJ Love, Evan Landi & Lindsey Lamar (and theoretically Carlton Mitchell, who decided to bolt rather than play for Holtz) .  I'd say that far exceeds what Taggart was left.  And Holtz inherited BJ, an above average to good QB, while Taggart was left with 2 QBs who would struggle to start at the FCS level.  Holtz was also left with a defense that just finished 19th in the country giving up only 19.8 pts/game.   Taggart inherited a defense that was giving up 27.4 pts/game.  

 

You may question coaching, but if seriously don't think their was a huge (and I mean HUGE) talent gap to what each coach was left, you simply should stop commenting on football.  

 

 

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The QB and WR talent differences between the two regimes is striking. Holtz found Davis, and...

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Its Time to Turn the Page on Willie Taggart

 

Heck, I've already turned the page on USF football.  Since I will be in Phoenix over the T-Giving holidays, I've given away the UCF tickets and parking passes to the local homeless shelter.  I'll have my focus on USF basketball and Lightning hockey.  USF football and especially Willie "The Mechanic" Taggart can go suck a crescent wrench.

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^ Wow, with a trailer like that, I'm sure Coach O can't wait to have you in the stands for bball, hb.

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Yeah, because the coaching ability of Holtz and Taggart has ZERO to do with on field performance.

 

Give me a break.

 

 

There you go again.  That has absolutely NOTHING to do with ANYTHING either you, or I, or anyone said.  The coaching abilities of Holtz and Taggart, and on field performance is a completely different argument than whether or not a roster was stocked at the beginning Holtz or Taggart's time here.

 

Nice try. 

 

 

Yeah, I win this round.

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Joel Miller had 11 catches at WR in Holtz' first year.  Is he one of the stud WRs that Leavitt left behind for Holtz?  Or were you referring to walk-on QB Bobby Eveld as one of the studs of the "stacked team" Leavitt left him?

 

Seriously, did Taggart sleep with your sister or something.  You're so far beyond delusional its probably a waste for me to even bother, but Leavitt left a WR corp of Sterling Griffin, Dontavia Bogan, AJ Love, Evan Landi & Lindsey Lamar (and theoretically Carlton Mitchell, who decided to bolt rather than play for Holtz) .  I'd say that far exceeds what Taggart was left.  And Holtz inherited BJ, an above average to good QB, while Taggart was left with 2 QBs who would struggle to start at the FCS level.  Holtz was also left with a defense that just finished 19th in the country giving up only 19.8 pts/game.   Taggart inherited a defense that was giving up 27.4 pts/game.  

 

You may question coaching, but if seriously don't think their was a huge (and I mean HUGE) talent gap to what each coach was left, you simply should stop commenting on football.  

 

 

Carlton Mitchell declared for the draft the same day Leavitt was fired.  He had likely decided to declare even before he knew Leavitt was gone. It clearly had nothing to do with Holtz.  So that's a fail.

 

Landi was a TE and Lamar was a WR.  They both played WR because there was no one else to suit up once Love and Griffin got hurt.

 

Thanks for bringing up Griffin, because he bolted when Taggart showed up and went to play for Holtz.

 

So Leavitt left a total of five WRs for Holtz.  And Leavitt used to run five wide sets all the time.  There should have been easily 10 to 12 scholly receivers.

 

Once gain I'll remind you that JOEL MILLER was tied for 4TH on the team in receptions in 2010.  That is still unbelievable to me how Holtz got that team to eight wins.

 

And you really are going to tell me that a good job of recruiting WRs by Leavitt?  Really?

 

:roflmao:

 

The WR core when Holtz left was far deeper and more talented.  There were a couple of other WRs that bailed at the same time as Griffin when Taggart showed up with his two yards and a cloud of dust offense.

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Yeah, because the coaching ability of Holtz and Taggart has ZERO to do with on field performance.

 

Give me a break.

 

There you go again.  That has absolutely NOTHING to do with ANYTHING either you, or I, or anyone said.  The coaching abilities of Holtz and Taggart, and on field performance is a completely different argument than whether or not a roster was stocked at the beginning Holtz or Taggart's time here.

 

Nice try.

 

Yeah, I win this round.

Yeah, because the coaching ability of Holtz and Taggart has ZERO to do with on field performance.

 

Give me a break.

 

There you go again.  That has absolutely NOTHING to do with ANYTHING either you, or I, or anyone said.  The coaching abilities of Holtz and Taggart, and on field performance is a completely different argument than whether or not a roster was stocked at the beginning Holtz or Taggart's time here.

 

Nice try.

 

Yeah, I win this round.

Yep, you win the Golden Top award for best spin.

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Oh, Leavitt team was 19th in defense the year before Holtz showed up.

 

Taggart's team last year was 21st in defense with the players Holtz left for Taggart.  How does this demonstrate Holtz left no players for Taggart?

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So Holtz #1 Taggert #2 & Jimmy #3 in recruiting & coaching ? We just have had a run of bad luck I guess

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