JTrue Posted September 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) moving from a state of the art stadium to a rinky dink 40k jerry rigged stadium would be dumb but very usf like if you cant build a state of the art stadium to rival the swamp or doak why bother The Swamp started as a 22k seat stadium in 1921 and didn't get to a size that befits the Gator's history of winning until 40 years after it was built (it finally cleared 62000 in 1961). I think you have your timeline a bit backwards. The Gators didn't have a history of winning to go with that stadium until the 1990s (unless you're literally talking about being a mostly .500 team). Edited September 13, 2014 by JTrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skingraft Posted September 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 743 Content Count: 13,357 Reputation: 2,482 Days Won: 63 Joined: 12/11/2006 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Here's a good reason to build a stadium; call it, the Hoffa reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000bull Posted September 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 83 Content Count: 7,048 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 11 Joined: 06/04/2009 Share Posted September 13, 2014 About Farking Time. All I've been saying for years is start the **** fundraising. Who cares how long it takes. Announce it now and copy the Big12 on the press release. Glad someone other than my dog has been listening to me! your dog to harlan's ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePhillips Posted September 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 280 Reputation: 164 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/26/2008 Share Posted September 13, 2014 If they build an on campus stadium, I'm going to dread having to park at the University Mall and walking over with my family I'll just have to decide which poison to take - get towed by Parking Services, or by Stepps towing from the University Mall We can't even fit the students that current ATTEND the campus, on the campus. How are we going to fit another 15,000 cars PLUS a huge stadium on that campus? It's going to be just like attending classes, with the jam packed student lots and empty faculty lots. The one thing USF does NOT get right, is the parking situation. It was terrible in 1996 when I started at USF, it was terrible in 2001 when I graduated. It was terrible in 2008 when I went back for my Masters, and it was terrible in 2011 when I finished. When ya'll are parking at the Adventure Island parking lot, you'll understand what the point I'm trying to make. An OCS will be a purposely engineered disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWMJD Posted September 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 93 Content Count: 3,048 Reputation: 316 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/24/2005 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) Pure incompetence and total lack of vision that the mentioned questions haven't been answered before. If you think that this is the first time these questions have come up and been discussed at the leadership level, you are wrong. Edited September 13, 2014 by WWMJD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallyBull Posted September 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 3,686 Reputation: 1,188 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/19/2011 Share Posted September 13, 2014 moving from a state of the art stadium to a rinky dink 40k jerry rigged stadium would be dumb but very usf like if you cant build a state of the art stadium to rival the swamp or doak why bother The idea that either the Swamp or Doak are "state of the art" stadiums is hilarious. I've been to both many, many times. They're special venues, but not because they're "state of the art." Those of you who are sanguine about an OCS are a vocal minority. Insisting on "need" as a criterion is funny and largely pointless. Fortunately, administrators are about to learn (via their feasibility study) that the average student and donor WANT (not need) to build a more traditional game day experience on campus (I.e. sans a goofy pirate ship and FIRE THE CANONS!) like most schools in Florida and are willing to pay for it. If it turns out I'm wrong (I could be) we'll remain RJS' red-headed step child indefinitely and probably get passed over during the next realignment in favor of the school to the east (not a "pipe dream" that we'll have to match or exceed them in school-specific facilities for consideration). I suppose for some of you that would be a good result because, hey, RJS is a good recruiting tool and pretty cavernous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000bull Posted September 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 83 Content Count: 7,048 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 11 Joined: 06/04/2009 Share Posted September 13, 2014 If they build an on campus stadium, I'm going to dread having to park at the University Mall and walking over with my family I'll just have to decide which poison to take - get towed by Parking Services, or by Stepps towing from the University Mall We can't even fit the students that current ATTEND the campus, on the campus. How are we going to fit another 15,000 cars PLUS a huge stadium on that campus? It's going to be just like attending classes, with the jam packed student lots and empty faculty lots. The one thing USF does NOT get right, is the parking situation. It was terrible in 1996 when I started at USF, it was terrible in 2001 when I graduated. It was terrible in 2008 when I went back for my Masters, and it was terrible in 2011 when I finished. When ya'll are parking at the Adventure Island parking lot, you'll understand what the point I'm trying to make. An OCS will be a purposely engineered disaster isn't that part of the on campus experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbryan Posted September 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 121 Content Count: 4,259 Reputation: 39 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/16/2006 Share Posted September 13, 2014 If they build an on campus stadium, I'm going to dread having to park at the University Mall and walking over with my family I'll just have to decide which poison to take - get towed by Parking Services, or by Stepps towing from the University Mall We can't even fit the students that current ATTEND the campus, on the campus. How are we going to fit another 15,000 cars PLUS a huge stadium on that campus? It's going to be just like attending classes, with the jam packed student lots and empty faculty lots. The one thing USF does NOT get right, is the parking situation. It was terrible in 1996 when I started at USF, it was terrible in 2001 when I graduated. It was terrible in 2008 when I went back for my Masters, and it was terrible in 2011 when I finished. When ya'll are parking at the Adventure Island parking lot, you'll understand what the point I'm trying to make. An OCS will be a purposely engineered disaster They're moving the USF Medical School to Channelside, there will be plenty of space for a stadium and parking once they've relocated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmhatter Posted September 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 576 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted September 13, 2014 moving from a state of the art stadium to a rinky dink 40k jerry rigged stadium would be dumb but very usf like if you cant build a state of the art stadium to rival the swamp or doak why bother Doak is UCF with a facade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmhatter Posted September 13, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 576 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted September 13, 2014 moving from a state of the art stadium to a rinky dink 40k jerry rigged stadium would be dumb but very usf like if you cant build a state of the art stadium to rival the swamp or doak why bother The idea that either the Swamp or Doak are "state of the art" stadiums is hilarious. I've been to both many, many times. They're special venues, but not because they're "state of the art." Those of you who are sanguine about an OCS are a vocal minority. Insisting on "need" as a criterion is funny and largely pointless. Fortunately, administrators are about to learn (via their feasibility study) that the average student and donor WANT (not need) to build a more traditional game day experience on campus (I.e. sans a goofy pirate ship and FIRE THE CANONS!) like most schools in Florida and are willing to pay for it. If it turns out I'm wrong (I could be) we'll remain RJS' red-headed step child indefinitely and probably get passed over during the next realignment in favor of the school to the east (not a "pipe dream" that we'll have to match or exceed them in school-specific facilities for consideration). I suppose for some of you that would be a good result because, hey, RJS is a good recruiting tool and pretty cavernous. Good post... it's an arms race with UCF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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