nobull.Bulls Posted December 13, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 5,241 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/02/2007 Share Posted December 13, 2010 I say run a spread offense with BJ to throw Clemson's D off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted December 13, 2010 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 74,669 Reputation: 10,888 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Brian Bennett of ESPN reported this morning that Skip Holtz has declared Bobby Eveld as the starter. If BJ is healthy, he will play. But Bobby is the starter.This is not any real new news. Skip didn't declare Eveld the starter. He has said that Eveld is the "anticipated" starter because BJ isn't 100% ... That hasn't changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Reaper Posted December 13, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,052 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/06/2002 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Eveld starts= offensive play opens up with non predictable playBJ starts= predictable plays and stagnant offenseBoth play= opens it wide REAL wide with Clemson not knowing what the heck to do defensively.I just hope WE do!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullMedic Posted December 13, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,478 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/10/2007 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Brian Bennett of ESPN reported this morning that Skip Holtz has declared Bobby Eveld as the starter. If BJ is healthy, he will play. But Bobby is the starter.This is not any real new news. Skip didn't declare Eveld the starter. He has said that Eveld is the "anticipated" starter because BJ isn't 100% ... That hasn't changedI agree, he's just saying we're moving forward AS IF Bobby is the starter. And Daniels just needs to get healthy. That is key.If Bobby is the starter, we WILL NOT have a chance if the offense play calling is the same as the first 3 quarters against UCONN. Gotta take shots down field and let your receivers do worl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crambone Posted December 13, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 9,038 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/18/2006 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Just win, baby!(for the record, I voted for Eveld, not because I think he's better or BJ is worse - I just think that Eveld will start due to Holtz's comments) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfbullcpa Posted December 13, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,985 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/02/2007 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Just win, baby!(for the record, I voted for Eveld, not because I think he's better or BJ is worse - I just think that Eveld will start due to Holtz's comments)"That's why I am here" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cow Pie Posted December 13, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 7,693 Reputation: 35 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/04/2008 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Eveld starts= offensive play opens up with non predictable playBJ starts= predictable plays and stagnant offenseBoth play= opens it wide REAL wide with Clemson not knowing what the heck to do defensively.I just hope WE do!!!You and me both... playing both is our best chance at not just winning, but also rolling to a win against a BCS team. I say Eveld gets the nod and then BJD will do a few surprise apperances throughout the game for some trick plays IF his legs are healthy. If BJ is down then HCSH should work in some surprise pass plays from Landi.This game plan makes the best sense... if we don't do a dual QB setup I will be pissed, especially if we lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarnozdabull Posted December 13, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,433 Reputation: 883 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2009 Share Posted December 13, 2010 BJ Daniels is not a good quaterback :nope Cause he has shown no improvement from game 3 to game 10 : Hes almost 3 years removed from High School and his decision making is still awful. (See 2 minute drill vs. Pitt) Which awful decision did HE make in that drill? (3rd and 4, ball on USF 43, 0:26 to play - Daniels runs up the middle for 5 yards.) Why? Why? Why? PASS THE BALL BJ! (1st and 10, ball on USF 48, 0:16 to play - Daniels midfield dumpoff to Faron Hornes for -2 yards. TIMEOUT USF at 0:07.) Do I really have to explain why this was a dumb decision? (2nd and 12, ball on USF 46, 0:07 to play - Daniels pass intercepted by Antuwan Reed at the 9yd line) Ok maybe this one was inevitable but you've got to try and throw it in the end zone. Not 10yds before it. This is probably more a matter of arm strength but you get the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Willie_Jokes_Yet Posted December 13, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 7,379 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/06/2002 Share Posted December 13, 2010 The funniest part about all of this is people claiming that Eveld is obviously the better passer when BJD and Eveld have virtually the same completion % this year (bj daniels is actually .4 higher), and that's with Eveld taking virtually no shots down the field in against UCONN. The passing numbers are VERY similar but BJ gives you the running dimention that Eveld lacks. Eveld ran a very limited playbook against UConn where we ran maybe a total of 10 plays and took virtually no shots deep against UCONN. I just don't see the savior that some see in Eveld. Do those stats include all of the smart incompletions Eveld has from throwing the ball away into the stands when he is in trouble vs. BJ throwing the ball high in the air into the middle of the defense when he is in trouble? Do those stats account for BJ throwing most of his INTs right to defenders where at least Eveld had a few of his balls batted up in the air before they were picked. Who ever stated that BJ takes advantage of broken down plays missed the fact that he has to....he doesnt make reads and the plays break down around the kid. Eveld isnt the greatest QB in the world and there are probably some high school kids that are better than he is right now BUT he is better than BJ at being a QB who can lead an offense and run it the way the coach intends it to be run. We might have lost at UCONN with Eveld but we did not lose because of Eveld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USF_Grouper Posted December 14, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 10,369 Reputation: 92 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/19/2005 Share Posted December 14, 2010 What surprises me is how many people are actually voting for BJD to be the starter.. the kid cannot pass. there is a reason Holtz is limiting his Passing Attempts, while he feels completely comfortable with a true/walk on freshman QB throwing passes (see BJD vs. Eveld's pass attempts/game.. huge difference).Just watching the game it is apparent coaching staff has much more confidence in Eveld's decision making than BJs. No way we through the ball late in first half against UCONN if BJ was in there. Eveld has a ball tipped and returned for a TD and on the next play we let him throw it again. If BJ was in that would have been run, run, run!I think BJ certainly has more natural talent, but Eveld may well give us the best chance to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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