hightechbull Posted May 17, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,511 Reputation: 278 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted May 17, 2010 When Boston College beat Rutgers in 1992, BC quarterback Glenn Foley—a New Jersey native—famously quipped, "The only bowl [Rutgers is] going to is the one I just got off of." :ROFLMAO :lmao :lolnew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capone24 Posted May 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 185 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/2007 Share Posted May 18, 2010 When I say this it's all hypothetical but what if the Big Ten chooses USF along with the other 4 schools? I know they want a school that is part of the AAU or whatever it is called, but to me that is something USF can accomplish within the next five years. Also they would give the Midwest teams a chance to play in Florida and recruit down here. As well as if the Big Ten does raid you know FSU or da U will be going to the SEC most likely. Even more of a reason to take a Florida school. Although this might be by far the best reason, when you are talking about opening up NEW markets that have existing Big Ten alumni in them I would think Tampa Bay would be either the first or second big city as far as population goes with Midwest alumni living in the metropolitan area. I know when I lived there I knew a lot of Midwest folk and who all loved Big Ten teams(which I can't stand). If you think about it from a dollars and cents point of view it does make sense! A LOT of CENTS and DOLLARS!I'm not saying it's going to happen but I haven't heard anyone say anything about the Midwest PRESENCE in Tampa? As well as how big they are here. Ad to the fact the other points about recruiting Florida exclusively against a relatively new program in us and they would have they advantage. Then throw in the Tampa market and it really makes you think. Just a thought, I know it won't happen but I though it could be a possibility when you are talking money, location, recruiting, and even academics which our school is progressing at an extensive rate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFDan Posted May 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 505 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Well here is a mention of looking south by the big ten.http://m.si.com/news/cfb_sp/to_cfb_sports/detail/2620057"We've talked from 10,000 feet about the census 20 years ago and the rust belt population, the Big Ten population versus movement to the Sun Belt over the last 20 years," Iowa athletic director Gary Barta said.That data, he said, revealed a big shift in population to the South."More and more people have moved to the South," he said. "The Big Ten still has the largest population base of alumni, but we want to make sure years from now, if that movement continues, we're in position to say that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 When I say this it's all hypothetical but what if the Big Ten chooses USF along with the other 4 schools? I know they want a school that is part of the AAU or whatever it is called, but to me that is something USF can accomplish within the next five years. Also they would give the Midwest teams a chance to play in Florida and recruit down here. As well as if the Big Ten does raid you know FSU or da U will be going to the SEC most likely. Even more of a reason to take a Florida school. Although this might be by far the best reason, when you are talking about opening up NEW markets that have existing Big Ten alumni in them I would think Tampa Bay would be either the first or second big city as far as population goes with Midwest alumni living in the metropolitan area. I know when I lived there I knew a lot of Midwest folk and who all loved Big Ten teams(which I can't stand). If you think about it from a dollars and cents point of view it does make sense! A LOT of CENTS and DOLLARS!I'm not saying it's going to happen but I haven't heard anyone say anything about the Midwest PRESENCE in Tampa? As well as how big they are here. Ad to the fact the other points about recruiting Florida exclusively against a relatively new program in us and they would have they advantage. Then throw in the Tampa market and it really makes you think. Just a thought, I know it won't happen but I though it could be a possibility when you are talking money, location, recruiting, and even academics which our school is progressing at an extensive rate!From a market standpoint it makes sense. But that is the only viewpoint that makes sense.USF doesn't have the athletic budget or facilities (although it is getting better) and it certainly doesn't have the history or the academic prestige.Truthfully, if the Big Ten wanted to capture a Florida market, it would do better to invite Florida State. It has a larger fan base and appeals to more than just the Tampa Bay area for the Big Ten network. Adding FSU could force BrightHouse to offer BTN as part of the digital service in both Tampa Bay and Orlando markets... heck, that might actually be better for the Big Ten network than adding Rutgers!But they have also said that the want a geographical footprint that makes sense. Unless they can add a major power (Texas?) they won't be looking south of the Mason-Dixon line anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted May 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 12,466 Reputation: 2,846 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Missouri officials on Monday denied an Associated Press request for documents related to the school's possible interest in the Big Ten. The university cited an exemption related to ongoing contract negotiations, but indicated it had not determined if such records even exist before responding with its denial.Interesting that they denied access to records they're not sure they have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampabull Posted May 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 771 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/30/2009 Share Posted May 18, 2010 When I say this it's all hypothetical but what if the Big Ten chooses USF along with the other 4 schools? I know they want a school that is part of the AAU or whatever it is called, but to me that is something USF can accomplish within the next five years. Also they would give the Midwest teams a chance to play in Florida and recruit down here. As well as if the Big Ten does raid you know FSU or da U will be going to the SEC most likely. Even more of a reason to take a Florida school. Although this might be by far the best reason, when you are talking about opening up NEW markets that have existing Big Ten alumni in them I would think Tampa Bay would be either the first or second big city as far as population goes with Midwest alumni living in the metropolitan area. I know when I lived there I knew a lot of Midwest folk and who all loved Big Ten teams(which I can't stand). If you think about it from a dollars and cents point of view it does make sense! A LOT of CENTS and DOLLARS!I'm not saying it's going to happen but I haven't heard anyone say anything about the Midwest PRESENCE in Tampa? As well as how big they are here. Ad to the fact the other points about recruiting Florida exclusively against a relatively new program in us and they would have they advantage. Then throw in the Tampa market and it really makes you think. Just a thought, I know it won't happen but I though it could be a possibility when you are talking money, location, recruiting, and even academics which our school is progressing at an extensive rate!From a market standpoint it makes sense. But that is the only viewpoint that makes sense.USF doesn't have the athletic budget or facilities (although it is getting better) and it certainly doesn't have the history or the academic prestige.Truthfully, if the Big Ten wanted to capture a Florida market, it would do better to invite Florida State. It has a larger fan base and appeals to more than just the Tampa Bay area for the Big Ten network. Adding FSU could force BrightHouse to offer BTN as part of the digital service in both Tampa Bay and Orlando markets... heck, that might actually be better for the Big Ten network than adding Rutgers!But they have also said that the want a geographical footprint that makes sense. Unless they can add a major power (Texas?) they won't be looking south of the Mason-Dixon line anytime soon.Unless Genshaft can pull off a miracle and get accepted in the AAU within the next few months I don't think USF will even be looked at for big 10 expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namuh-bull Posted May 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 1,235 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/23/2003 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I've thought about this for a while and even though my hope is for USF to some day get into the SEC, I think the Big East should act before the Big10 by getting Notre Dame on board as a football member, leaving them to their own contracts for TV but with a negotiated rate for the BE when they play a BE team. Basically we would just have them on board for scheduling purposes. They may go for something like that. Then add 1 or 2 teams from Boston College, TCU, ECU, Memhis, and UCF.Go Bulls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampabull Posted May 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 771 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/30/2009 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I've thought about this for a while and even though my hope is for USF to some day get into the SEC, I think the Big East should act before the Big10 by getting Notre Dame on board as a football member, leaving them to their own contracts for TV but with a negotiated rate for the BE when they play a BE team. Basically we would just have them on board for scheduling purposes. They may go for something like that. Then add 1 or 2 teams from Boston College, TCU, ECU, Memhis, and UCF.Go Bulls! nd not coming to the big east for football. If Rutgers is the only team big east loses they will add ecu, ucf, or memphis, maybe tcu. They may add 3 teams to make it 10 total. Boston college is not coming either because of the new acc deal with espn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted May 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I've thought about this for a while and even though my hope is for USF to some day get into the SEC, I think the Big East should act before the Big10 by getting Notre Dame on board as a football member, leaving them to their own contracts for TV but with a negotiated rate for the BE when they play a BE team. Basically we would just have them on board for scheduling purposes. They may go for something like that. Then add 1 or 2 teams from Boston College, TCU, ECU, Memhis, and UCF.Go Bulls! The Big East doesn't have/won't have the television dollars to get Notre Dame on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyBull Posted May 18, 2010 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 6,928 Reputation: 127 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/01/2002 Share Posted May 18, 2010 When I say this it's all hypothetical but what if the Big Ten chooses USF along with the other 4 schools? I know they want a school that is part of the AAU or whatever it is called, but to me that is something USF can accomplish within the next five years. Also they would give the Midwest teams a chance to play in Florida and recruit down here. As well as if the Big Ten does raid you know FSU or da U will be going to the SEC most likely. Even more of a reason to take a Florida school. Although this might be by far the best reason, when you are talking about opening up NEW markets that have existing Big Ten alumni in them I would think Tampa Bay would be either the first or second big city as far as population goes with Midwest alumni living in the metropolitan area. I know when I lived there I knew a lot of Midwest folk and who all loved Big Ten teams(which I can't stand). If you think about it from a dollars and cents point of view it does make sense! A LOT of CENTS and DOLLARS!I'm not saying it's going to happen but I haven't heard anyone say anything about the Midwest PRESENCE in Tampa? As well as how big they are here. Ad to the fact the other points about recruiting Florida exclusively against a relatively new program in us and they would have they advantage. Then throw in the Tampa market and it really makes you think. Just a thought, I know it won't happen but I though it could be a possibility when you are talking money, location, recruiting, and even academics which our school is progressing at an extensive rate!From a market standpoint it makes sense. But that is the only viewpoint that makes sense.USF doesn't have the athletic budget or facilities (although it is getting better) and it certainly doesn't have the history or the academic prestige.Truthfully, if the Big Ten wanted to capture a Florida market, it would do better to invite Florida State. It has a larger fan base and appeals to more than just the Tampa Bay area for the Big Ten network. Adding FSU could force BrightHouse to offer BTN as part of the digital service in both Tampa Bay and Orlando markets... heck, that might actually be better for the Big Ten network than adding Rutgers!But they have also said that the want a geographical footprint that makes sense. Unless they can add a major power (Texas?) they won't be looking south of the Mason-Dixon line anytime soon.Unless Genshaft can pull off a miracle and get accepted in the AAU within the next few months I don't think USF will even be looked at for big 10 expansion. Didn't praz judy Genshaft come from Ohio state?!? maybe she has some connections within OSU...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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