puc86 Posted December 16, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,253 Reputation: 6,141 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: We will win 4 games next year but the following year will be a championship. Mark it. That’s a pretty big jump and would make the journey probably worth it but it is my experience in life that people betting on giant turnarounds following failed implementations usually do not miracle themselves to drastic improvement year over year most progress in life tends to be incremental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted December 16, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, BullyPulpit said: I fully welcome it. If CJS wins us a conference championship then he is definitely in the running for best coach in USF history. However, if he does it and leaves the cupboard empty and we fall back into the abyss, then his legacy will be worth a whole let less. I don't begrudge someone for wanting more. He should be judged by his actual accomplishments and not the promise of what he could deliver. I agree with that assessment. That is why I don’t get too excited about Willie. He failed on both accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullyPulpit Posted December 16, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 365 Content Count: 6,466 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 35 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted December 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gatorbull325 said: Soooooo, did I miss any convos about the QB we just got, that started a few games for UM and threw for 6 touchdowns against L'ville? Ton of talent. He played behind one of the worst o-lines in the country at UM and was murdered regularly. He is a prototypical Pro-style QB, so don't expect a lot of scrambling from him. If he is going to win the job we need to either have a good o-line or run a lot of screens and quick slants for this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted December 16, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, puc86 said: That’s a pretty big jump and would make the journey probably worth it but it is my experience in life that people betting on giant turnarounds following failed implementations usually do not miracle themselves to drastic improvement year over year most progress in life tends to be incremental Universities do it every year. Why not us? I remember the community college in Orlando doing it. Just now, BullyPulpit said: Ton of talent. He played behind one of the worst o-lines in the country at UM and was murdered regularly. He is a prototypical Pro-style QB, so don't expect a lot of scrambling from him. If he is going to win the job we need to either have a good o-line or run a lot of screens and quick slants for this kid. I will be shocked if he is not the starter on opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted December 16, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,253 Reputation: 6,141 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Just now, NewEnglandBull said: I agree with that assessment. That is why I don’t get too excited about Willie. He failed on both accounts. Then what exactly has CJS actually accomplished that makes you so mad that people actually want to see even a sliver of better from him before anointing him as our savior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted December 16, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, puc86 said: Then what exactly has CJS actually accomplished that makes you so mad that people actually want to see even a sliver of better from him before anointing him as our savior? He has not accomplished nothing...yet. Anyone who thought he would have done so already did not know college football. You have already been feed the reasons but don’t support them so I am not going to waste my time again with you explaining it. But if you are too blind to see that a solid foundation is being built then this just further proves my point about you. Edited December 16, 2020 by NewEnglandBull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeG Posted December 16, 2020 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,984 Content Count: 19,737 Reputation: 3,614 Days Won: 161 Joined: 07/17/2003 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Time out--- We are in the signing day thread and people are going nuts talking about conference championships. I will settle for a win. Then a another. Rinse repeat. We've NEVER won a football Conference Championship. How any one could use that as the acceptable bar makes zero sense. I mean-- shoot for the stars and all that but we are in the letter of intent signing thread. Just a bit of a cart before the horse conversation going on. Stop with all the escalation of the discussion and talking about championships. The fact that we won a single game against an FCS school is the sum of last years accomplishments. Conference Championship? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MINDS? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted December 16, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,253 Reputation: 6,141 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: Universities do it every year. Why not us? I remember the community college in Orlando doing it. I will be shocked if he is not the starter on opening day. They actually had incremental progress in Scott’s first year they improved by 6 games in his second year they improved by 7 games. We had a coaching change and netted negative wins and then in year two expect to net zero, that’s a pretty big jump in year three having not established any improvement since the day you stepped on campus but I would be more than happy to see the improvement hoped for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted December 16, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, MikeG said: Time out--- We are in the signing day thread and people are going nuts talking about conference championships. I will settle for a win. Then a another. Rinse repeat. We've NEVER won a football Conference Championship. How any one could use that as the acceptable bar makes zero sense. I mean-- shoot for the stars and all that but we are in the letter of intent signing thread. Just a bit of a cart before the horse conversation going on. Stop with all the escalation of the discussion and talking about championships. The fact that we won a single game against an FCS school is the sum of last years accomplishments. Conference Championship? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MINDS? Conference? Try National! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted December 16, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, MikeG said: Time out--- We are in the signing day thread and people are going nuts talking about conference championships. I will settle for a win. Then a another. Rinse repeat. We've NEVER won a football Conference Championship. How any one could use that as the acceptable bar makes zero sense. I mean-- shoot for the stars and all that but we are in the letter of intent signing thread. Just a bit of a cart before the horse conversation going on. Stop with all the escalation of the discussion and talking about championships. The fact that we won a single game against an FCS school is the sum of last years accomplishments. Conference Championship? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MINDS? Players win championships Mike...it relates. We have a poster who is insinuating that this year’s crop of players is meh. That the transfers are meh. I assume there is a reason for that negative attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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