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Point of order... He won 9 games 3 times. We were 9-2 our last year as an independent, playing a mostly CUSA schedule.  Do you know why there was heartbreak? Because there was hope, expectations, and something real to play for. 
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Gco was snapping the ball to flowers and him just running around making plays. Jimmy and joes not Xs and Os

Why we have never been to a conference championship or won a conference championship. Because if play ground offense. 

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Why must we always disparage coaches that have done good things during their time here.  Leavitt and Taggart did good work during their time here. Period.  Skip and Charlie were handed teams

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I think your... IN A BCS/P5 conference is the key here... UCF has been great the last few years right? How many conference championships would they have won in the ACC? I'm going to say zero with how

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Point of order... He won 9 games 3 times. We were 9-2 our last year as an independent, playing a mostly CUSA schedule.  Do you know why there was heartbreak? Because there was hope, expectation

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1 minute ago, Bullgrad84 said:

Gco was snapping the ball to flowers and him just running around making plays. Jimmy and joes not Xs and Os

you didn't watch us much then because some of those play designs were brilliant.

Bell couldn't get an offense to score 18 ppg.

we broke all sorts of records on offense under Taggart. it's why many of our conference mates copied it.

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1 minute ago, Bullgrad84 said:

Gco was snapping the ball to flowers and him just running around making plays. Jimmy and joes not Xs and Os

It actually used a lot of schemes designed to freeze the defense to allow the ball carrier to get an extra step on the defense. 
 

2 and 3 RB sets, pre-snap motions, it kept the defense flat footed just long enough to get those big gains. Helps Mack and Flowers were elusive athletes, but it played to their strengths.

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It actually used a lot of schemes designed to freeze the defense to allow the ball carrier to get an extra step on the defense. 
 

2 and 3 RB sets, pre-snap motions, it kept the defense flat footed just long enough to get those big gains. Helps Mack and Flowers were elusive athletes, but it played to their strengths.

absolutely. big part of it was using the read option to freeze linebackers and safeties.

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12 minutes ago, Bullgrad84 said:

Gco was snapping the ball to flowers and him just running around making plays. Jimmy and joes not Xs and Os

Yup. Disparage the coach who literally spent two offseasons studying at the foot of legends to create his own offense to cater to the player(s) he was recruiting.  

Mack, Flowers, Adams.... dynamic. All the same class. 

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3 minutes ago, Bull94 said:

absolutely. big part of it was using the read option to freeze linebackers and safeties.

USF ran read option a lot this year a lot of different ways. They just don’t have Q and Mack. 

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USF ran read option a lot this year a lot of different ways. They just don’t have Q and Mack. 

no they didn't.usually a straight QB draw. they broke it out once in a blue moon. they ran more 7 step drops than anything

 

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@Bull94, why are you going down this rabbit hole with a board and maybe even USF newbie? 

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1 minute ago, DELdaBull said:

@Bull94, why are you going down this rabbit hole with a board and maybe even USF newbie? 

you're right. can't wait until this entire coaching staff with the exception of S King is gone.

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you're right. can't wait until this entire coaching staff with the exception of S King is gone.

Hope new coach keeps him on. He's done good work

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