puc86 Posted November 6, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 6, 2019 53 minutes ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said: Even I will admit he didn't have enough time at FSU. But his schtick doesn't play well and grates when the team isn't winning. Still I have no sorrow for someone getting that kind of money for getting fired. Maybe they just didn’t understand the nuances involved in why unlike every other losing record his was actually good. I’m sure if anyone took the time to explain that these were rebuilding losing records everything would have been just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Bullnard_Shaw Posted November 6, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 55 Content Count: 6,740 Reputation: 1,743 Days Won: 17 Joined: 11/04/2012 Share Posted November 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, puc86 said: Maybe they just didn’t understand the nuances involved in why unlike every other losing record his was actually good. I’m sure if anyone took the time to explain that these were rebuilding losing records everything would have been just fine. I think his bowl record is worthy enough to give him more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 6, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, George_Bullnard_Shaw said: I think his bowl record is worthy enough to give him more time. Who else has contributed to as many other people winning bowl games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted November 6, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 553 Content Count: 14,405 Reputation: 434 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) Leavitt has been promoted to asst coach on defense. https://www.tomahawknation.com/florida-state-football-fsu-noles/2019/11/5/20950562/fsu-football-promotes-jim-leavitt-florida-state-seminoles-defensive-coach-coordinator Edited November 6, 2019 by slick1ru2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted November 6, 2019 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,539 Reputation: 10,818 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted November 6, 2019 5 hours ago, puc86 said: I mean if you are going to pick something to be myopic about having a winning record seems like a fairly good one for a head coach. I do agree .... but so would be winning conference championships. 13 years without winning one doesn't paint a very successful picture, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 6, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Triple B said: I do agree .... but so would be winning conference championships. 13 years without winning one doesn't paint a very successful picture, either. While you know I’m going to say it’s because he was was constantly moving up in class while playing with the players he recruited the class below or even the one below that as in those 13 years we moved from FCS to BCS at the very least you can’t count until 2003 as we were FCS and FBS independents before that and therefore couldn’t win a conference championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted November 6, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,455 Reputation: 2,840 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted November 6, 2019 10 hours ago, slick1ru2 said: Leavitt has been promoted to asst coach on defense. https://www.tomahawknation.com/florida-state-football-fsu-noles/2019/11/5/20950562/fsu-football-promotes-jim-leavitt-florida-state-seminoles-defensive-coach-coordinator I think it's interesting that one of the major problems at FSU was that the defense faded horribly in the 2nd half of games and they "promoted" the d-line coach, that's been there for 20 years, to interim HC ... again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotsofbull99 Posted November 6, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 114 Content Count: 6,743 Reputation: 912 Days Won: 17 Joined: 02/17/2002 Share Posted November 6, 2019 24 minutes ago, BDYZR said: I think it's interesting that one of the major problems at FSU was that the defense faded horribly in the 2nd half of games and they "promoted" the d-line coach, that's been there for 20 years, to interim HC ... again. The FSU defense, can be solved with a few well placed headbutts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted November 6, 2019 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,539 Reputation: 10,818 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted November 6, 2019 3 hours ago, puc86 said: While you know I’m going to say it’s because he was was constantly moving up in class while playing with the players he recruited the class below or even the one below that as in those 13 years we moved from FCS to BCS at the very least you can’t count until 2003 as we were FCS and FBS independents before that and therefore couldn’t win a conference championship. So there could be extenuating circumstances in a coach’s career that could skew normal quantifiers ..... got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 6, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,249 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Triple B said: So there could be extenuating circumstances in a coach’s career that could skew normal quantifiers ..... got it. Was it by definition impossible for CWT to win more than half his games over a course of 10 years? Not being able to win a conference because you aren’t in a conference is not quite the same thing as being less than the median because it’s hard and you leave the first time you win to go to someone at the tail end of their down cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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